Partial Atonement

Dear Bro. Don,

Thank you for your excellent edi­torial in the July Tidings concerning “The Theory of Partial Atonement Examined.” Your editorial is nicely balanced in dealing with a difficult subject such as the atonement, while showing the deficiencies in Bro. Cook’s pamphlet. I agree with you that “his work is more than poorly done, it is profoundly dangerous.”

“The Theory of Partial Atonement Examined” can only serve to wound and mislead the brotherhood, particu­larly those of us in North America working to heal a divided household. This booklet gives the false impres­sion that leading brethren in Central either endorse the teaching of “clean flesh,” or lean in that direction.

As one who has departed from the “legal logic” of Andrewism, I am troubled that there are those in the Central Fellowship who would em­brace that same pseudo-logic [as Andrewism] and disparage brethren who oppose those arguments [of Andrewism] as teaching error. It is irresponsible to accuse respected and faithful brethren such as John Mar­tin, Harry Tennant, Jim Luke and Michael Ashton as being unsound in their understanding and teaching of the atonement. We pray that Bro. Cook will see the error of his way.

My thanks again for coming out so strongly against “The Theory of Partial Atonement Examined.”

Gary Burns, Richmond, VA

Many other phone calls, com­ments, emails and letters were re­ceived expressing appreciation of the editorial. But not everyone liked it.

Dear Don,

The article in the July issue of Tid­ings entitled “Partial Atonement” fails to deal with a very important point of doctrine. The Australian brethren who are accused of teaching partial atonement lay explicit emphasis on the point that Christ did not need to make an offering for his sin-prone nature (see “Saved By His Life” pp. 25,36,39,41,47).

All are agreed that Christ did not need to make an offering for personal sins. If he was not required to make an offering for his sin-prone nature, then it follows that there was nothing intrinsic about the person of Jesus Christ that required an offering at all! Therefore, his sacrifice was entirely for us: “But for our needs we may reverently say he would not have been there” (pg. 36).

The notion that the sacrifice of Christ was entirely for us is the cor­ner stone of both the clean flesh and free life theories. The notion also runs counter to Article 8 of the BASF which declares, “That these promises had reference to Jesus Christ, who was raised up in the condemned line of Adam, and who, though wearing their condemned nature, was to ob­tain a title to resurrection by perfect obedience, and, by dying, abrogate the law of condemnation for himself and all who should believe and obey him.” (Italics added).

Edward W Farrar,
editor of the “Advocate” magazine

The brethren you question do not believe that “the sacrifice of Christ was entirely for us.” You cite part of a quote from page 36; here is the whole quote: “Another cause of diffi­culty arises out of the Lord’s relation­ship to his own death. It is affirmed in Scripture that ‘by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place having obtained eternal redemption;’ and that ‘God brought from the dead the great Shepherd of the sheep through the blood  of the everlasting covenant;’ and that he was saved from death. He needed redemption; he needed salvation from death [i.e. the sacrifice was not entirely for us.

Jesus needed his own sacrifice to be himself saved from death]. The con­fusion arises when we isolate him from his work. He was to be our Saviour, and but for our needs we may reverently say he would not have been there.” Bro. John Carter, Australian Unity Book, p. 21.

Page 47 of “Saved by His Life,” which you also cite, reads as follows:

“Christ Our Representative

“Taking the common ‘pioneer’ expression ‘for himself that it might be for us,’ that true expression is con­trasted with the teaching of the two extremes.

“Here is an illustration of how these two extremes separate the Lord from the work he came to do:

“Clean Flesh separates him by excluding him altogether from the principles set forth in his sacrifice.

“Andrewism includes him in his own sacrifice, but with having a sepa­rate need because his sin-prone na­ture was regarded as actual sin.”

You can see Bro. Martin is react­ing to Bro. Andrew’s calling our innate bias to sin “physical sin.” It is his reaction to the phrase “physical sin” that causes Bro. Martin to write against the phrase, “sacrifice for hu­man nature.”

Of course, we all agree that God is not saving human nature; He is go­ing to destroy it while bestowing di­vine nature on the faithful. Thus properly expressed, sacrifice is offered for the person because he has human na­ture (and because, in our case, we commit iniquities) and is not offered “for human nature.” Thus Bro. Mar­tin is on sound ground in rejecting the phrase “sacrifice for human nature.”

Bro Martin keeps supporting the phrase “for himself that it might be for us” so he certainly sees that the sacrifice of Christ was not entirely for us But the extreme language of Bro Andrew has shaped Bro Martin’s op­position to the phrase “sacrifice for human nature” Note the following.

“Being then constituted flesh and blood, and having within himself those propensities which are the cause of sin [he thus rejects clean flesh], which in every other human have led to trans­gression, the term sin can only be ap­plied by figure of metonymy to our Lord He is thus our representative.

“It is essential to understand the metonymical use of sin, especially in its application to our Lord Failure to see this has led some astray Their concept [referring to Bro Andrew] has been that the term ‘sin’ is applied to literal flesh because it is actual sin!’ This in turn leads to the inevitable cor­ollary that Jesus possessed sin physi­cally, hence giving rise to the theory of the necessity of offering for his sin-prone nature This is totally false, and has come about because of the failure to grasp the metonymical use of the term ‘sin’ “

Thus the extreme language of Bro Andrew has brought about an under­standable counter reaction

Why Division?

Dear Bro Don,

A pamphlet has come into my pos­session written by a brother who decries the manmade division in the Christadelphian community He has done considerable research into the cause of this division which he finds unscriptural and definitely contrary to Christ’s commands I think we all agree with this.

He found that from 1850 to 1900 what would happen to the enlightened rejecter was a subject that could not be decided upon This period was under the stalwart guidance of Bre John Thomas and Robert Roberts The first principle is that we must submit to baptism if we wish to be in the kingdom, not that we dictate to our Heavenly Father whom He must or must not raise for judgment God will raise whomsoever He will Why cannot we leave it at that when speaking of enlightened rejecters and all meet together with our wonderful knowledge of what are truly first principles?

Lois Hulbert, Largo, Florida

Items in the Christadelphian maga­zine from 1894 to 1900 fully docu­ment reasons for the amendment to the Birmingham Statement of Faith which eventually left us with the Amended/Unamended situation in North America We sent the infor­mation to Sis Hulbert She found it fully explanatory and agreed that we could publish part of her letter and that it would be useful to present highlights of the material sent to her

Following are “highlights” of the material (seven pages of quotes from the Christadelphian) which we will be pleased to send to any on request

JJ Andrew changes mind

“Whereas he formerly believed that the light of knowledge is the ground of human responsibility to God, he (JJ Andrew) has, under a special stress, changed his mind ” 1894, p 300.

“I did not know Bro. Andrew had become a convert to Sis. Andrew’s theory, which she had been agitating amongst us off and on ever since she came among us in London…” 1894, p. 477.

“If the question of the state of the enlightened rejecter of the truth has not been allowed to remain where it was for thirty years, it is because a public denial has been made of what has for thirty years been accepted as part and parcel of the professed sys­tem of the truth.. .This has now been publicly repudiated and denounced as ‘the thinking of the flesh.’ …The Lon­don brethren have had to withstand open assault upon an avowed and professed principle of divine truth at the hands of a brother to whom they had most reason of all to look for its defense…” 1894, p. 303.

JJ Andrew takes fellowship stand

“If the bitterness of death were not already past, we should note with grief the endeavor that is being made by those who have gone aside with Bro. Andrew in London.. .It is now made the basis of ecclesial action in a circular sent round, intimating that the brethren in question ‘have come to the conclusion’ that they cannot receive  in fellowship those who differ from them on the questions in debate” 1896, p. 396.

Bro. Roberts’ advises restraint

“We have for years felt uncertain — not as to the doctrine that men who knowingly refuse to submit to Christ are responsible to his judgment seat at the resurrection – but as to how those ought to be regarded who deny it…Are we to say their faith in Christ is invalidated by this error concerning the degree of punishment to be meted out to rebels against the light? Here we have always hesitated; and we know Dr. Thomas was against mak­ing it a ground of disfellowship” 1896, p. 475.

“It is the aggressive opposition to the doctrine of the resurrection of en­lightened rejecters of the Gospel — declaring it a thing untrue and to be rejected in fellowship — that has cre­ated the difficulty…” 7/1897 Inside Front Cover (IFC).

Clause 24 amended under pressure

” ‘Is it true,’ asks a well-known brother, ‘that the Birmingham ecclesia teaches, or permits to be taught, that ‘resurrection only affects those who have been baptized into Christ;’ or, would it countenance in its midst those who opposed the doctrine that knowl­edge of God’s will was in itself suffi­cient to bring resurrectional responsi­bility; or, who maintain that Proposi­tion 24 of the Birmingham basis per­mitted the members to teach what they like on the question of responsi­bility? I put this question because we are asked fellowship by some who openly disavow the resurrection of enlightened rebels on the plea of hav­ing now adopted the Birmingham ba­sis in its entirety [claiming the BSF wording was open].” 1897, p. 420.

“The continuation of controversy concerning the Responsibility Ques­tion, and the wide spread circulation of grave charges against the Birming­ham ecclesia, of sheltering error, and suppressing or hindering the truth, have induced the arranging brethren to recommend the ecclesia to define its position on the matter…” 1897, p. 506.

“On the question of the Responsibility to Resurrection and Condemna­tion of Enlightened Rejecters of the Truth, the ecclesia adopted the recommendation of the Arranging Breth­ren, which ran as follows: ‘Seeing that this doctrine is contained in the State­ment of Faith, which forms our Ba­sis of Fellowship, and that organized and active denial of it, in London and elsewhere, has taken place, also that the matter has been thoroughly discussed in our literature for more than three years past; and seeing further that controversy concerning it resulting in division in certain ecclesias is still current, and that it is widely and publicly alleged that we are fellowshipping or sheltering error on the matter, it is Resolved that we af­firm Proposition of the Statement of Faith in the following amplified terms, and that we fellowship those only who hold the same doctrine…” [then fol­lows what we now have as Clause 24 in the BASF] 1898, p. 79.

In North America, the lines were not drawn so sharply. Thus when the Birmingham Ecclesia published their clarified statement, some North American ecclesias felt it went too far and declined to accept the BASF, preferring instead the unaltered BSF. Thus was born the Amended/Un­amended division. May we not perpetuate it with needless disputes illus­trated by the partial atonement charges; rather may we take advan­tage of the on-going unity process and heal this 100-year-old breach in the household of faith.

Sunday Evening Programs

Dear Bro. Don

For some time now, the Victoria, BC, Ecclesia, has been giving thought to ideas for making our Sunday evening meeting more relevant.

For many years, our ecclesial Sun­day evening has been a “lecture” de­signed with the unbaptized visitor and young people in mind, followed by re­freshments. It seems that just having every evening follow the same format may cause some listeners to struggle to keep their attention rather than to be excited about what they are hearing.

What are other ecclesias doing? Are they holding Sunday evening meet­ings of some kind? It seems espe­cially important that this time be a ve­hicle for reaching and holding our youth, for reaching interested friends and providing something enriching for brothers and sisters.

We are also interested in any ac­tivities used by other ecclesias to seek out and teach interested friends, in­cluding what is being used as follow-up to the Learn to Read the Bible Effectively seminars.

Gordon and Beth Dangerfield,
1155 Ranger Place, Victoria, BC
V8X 3P5 Canada gdange@home.coin

Hopefully you’ll get feedback from other ecclesias. At the moment in the Ann Arbor Ecclesia we have no for­mal Sunday-evening program. Mon­day evening is a follow-up seminar on the gospels; Tuesday is a combined follow-up seminar and Bible class on Luke. In addition, particularly Sun­day evening, there are informal social and instructional get-togethers in members’ homes.

For follow-up seminar classes we’re using the material on Genesis, the Gospels and Acts from Brampton, Ontario.

Proper Instruction on Marriage to an Unbeliever

Dear Bro. Don,

When our brothers and sisters speak to our young people about mak­ing choices in their lives, do they bring out the consequences of those choices, especially in relation to mar­riage outside the Truth? If not, they should. Do they tell the young that by marrying an outsider they are breaking the covenant they made at baptism to stay only with Christ and come away from the enemy, i.e., the world? Do they mention that the one who marries an outsider leaves the meeting with only a half member, be­cause his/her loyalties are now divided between an unbeliever and the Truth?

Do they tell of the heartbreak one will live with for the rest of her life and the feeling of guilt at having disobeyed Christ’s commandment? Along with this guilt, one has a part­ner that she can’t share the Truth with or do the readings with or talk over a problem of spirituality or even a moral issue. An outsider does not see the problem from the same viewpoint as a believer.

When children come, where will they go? The home is divided on many issues. Everyone suffers, including the ecclesia. The ecclesia has lost a potential member plus a brother/sister who is now bound to a person who is alien to the Truth.

If an unmarried sister is with child by an unbeliever, should she be en­couraged to marry the father who has no interest in the Truth? I think this is wrong because two wrongs don’t make a matter right. How can a house divided against itself stand?… When we’re young, we find the commands of Christ tough at times, but later we will realize our lives would have much less turmoil if we had only obeyed the Lord. Been there, done that.

A Sister

This message is the more power­ful because it comes from a person who is married to an unbeliever. If they are willing, believers in such a situation would do our young people a great service if they would person­ally warn them, either collectively or individually, of the problems of marrying an unbeliever.

In respect to those who are with child out of wedlock, pressuring them to marry an unbeliever, as the sister notes, is only making a bad situation worse. In this particular circum­stance, our society that tolerates al­most anything gives the sister and her family more options. A decision not to marry does not bring a terrible so­cial stigma and could eventually result in a happy and scripturally sound marriage to a brother in Christ.

Head Coverings for Sisters

A number of letters and comments have been received, several making reference to everyday practice among Jews and Gentiles in the first century. Unfortunately, no documentation has been provided. It would be of inter­est if there were some accurately documented evidence of mid-first century practices. We do not feel such would be decisive, however, as we feel scripture gives us adequate information for people of any subse­quent time or place to understand its message.

A question was raised that since the angels are always present, should sisters always wear head coverings? We feel the entirety of I Corinthians 11 (1 Cor. 11:17-20) addresses specifically behavior at the memorial ser­vice and is not giving instructions for circumstances beyond that meeting.

An interesting observation was made that men normally have more prolific hair growth than women on every part of their body except on the head. Following through on this ob­servation, nature is seen to suggest long hair on women and beards on men.

Objection was taken to assuming the “our” of Genesis 1:26 refers to the angels. It was noted the Greek version of the Old Testament likely used by the Corinthians is the same as the English in translating the plural elohim (“mighty ones”) as the singu­lar Theos (God). It was reasoned the Corinthians would thus never read Theos with a plurality of beings in mind. They might assume the “our” of Genesis 1 is referring to God and the one to whom He was conveying His creative work (i.e. perhaps Moses).

Our response is that there is clear Old Testament evidence of the angels’ involvement in the creative work (Psa. 103:20; Job 38:7) and plenty of ex­amples of angels being the ones through whom Deity directly performed His work (e.g. Gen. 18:1 + 19:2; Ex. 3:2-4; Acts 7:38). On such occasions, the angels were certainly called by the names and titles of the Almighty Himself. Thus the doctrine of God manifestation was, no doubt, understood by the brethren in Corinth and they would see in Theos the same richness of meaning we see in “God” depending on the context.

Flexibility About Prophecy

Dear Bro. Don,

Our thanks for your editorial in the May, Tidings on “Keeping Perspec­tive When We Differ.” It is wonder­ful to see you go on record in pre­senting what we feel is a realistic ap­proach to subjects that have recently become, sadly, contentious within the brotherhood.

Unfortunately, it would appear that, in some quarters, the concept of first principles is presently being ex­panded to areas which are promoting further disagreement among brothers and sisters at a time when we should all be working together within the wonderful framework of common beliefs and first principles that we hold near and dear.

Thank you for your courage. We pray that it will be received in the true spirit in which it was given.

Dave & Mamie McKay,
Brampton, Ontario

Dear Bro. Don,

For some reason, I was struck by the question raised in the editorial of the May, 2000, issue. Do we all have to agree on the interpretation of proph­ecy? The answer is clearly, “No,” as you pointed out.

In fact, it is probably better that we do not all agree. Why? Because if we all fall into lock-step with a given interpretation of prophecy, we may all be wrong. We are not clairvoyant. We see only puzzling reflections in a mirror. The apostles themselves did not understand Christ’s prophecy of his own death and resurrection, even after those events had come to pass. Are we so much wiser that we can accurately and flawlessly interpret even passages of scripture that deal with something that none of us has ever experienced?

Do we all have to agree on inter­pretation of prophecy? No. Do we all have to agree on the nature with which we will emerge from the grave? The writer is a member of the Cleve­land Church of the Blessed Hope which is associated with the Church of God of the Abrahamic Faith. Talks have been held between several of their congregations and Midwestern Christadelphian ecclesias regarding mutual recognition in fellowship, ed.]. No. If we all are in lock-step on this, we might all be wrong. Great Bible students can be mistaken.

Our disputes on this subject con­tinue because we haven’t even clearly defined words like “immortal.” Does it mean “cannot die” or does it mean “will not die?” And is it revocable? I maintain that we cannot make the in­terpretation of prophecy a test of fel­lowship.

We are one body. We need to act like it.

John Linsenmeier, Mentor; Ohio

This letter illustrates that communities which have developed sepa­rately also develop separate vocabularies. When Christadelphians speak of differences regarding “prophecy,” we are not referring to every event yet future, such as the coming of Christ, resurrection, judgment, kingdom, etc. We are speaking of the political, mili­tary and economic circumstances which will prevail in the nations be­fore Christ returns and as he begins to establish the kingdom. For example we’re talking about whether the Gogian host is Russian, European or Arabic or whether Ezekiel 38 is ful­filled before or after Christ is en­throned in Jerusalem. Further when Christadelphians speak of being “immortal” they are referring to that glo­rious divine nature with which the faithful are endowed for all eternity. To us, this is the great goal to which the saints aspire. We would not use the word in reference, for example, to some temporary, intermediate condition while we awaited the pronounce­ment of the great judge when he re­turns to judge the living and the dead.

Given these differences in vocabulary, it’s no wonder we are sometimes amazed that, when we carefully discuss the beliefs behind the words, we find more agreement than we expected. That’s why we need to keep talking that together we might be one flock following one shepherd.