Exporting Division

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings in Jesus’ name.

Your July, 1993 editorial focused on a very important issue, and I fully support your sentiments. While traveling in many missionary areas over recent years, I have come across various instances of the folly of exported division. Let me mention just one case.

Two brethren in our fellowship are employed in the Reserve Bank of Malawi; I see them quite frequently when I visit the bank on business. One of them recently noticed another employee reading Christadelphian literature during a lunch break. He was, of course, surprised and asked if he could assist in any way because he was a Christadelphian himself He was astonished to be told by the reader: I must then be your brother. This newly baptized brother was in another fellowship quite unaware of the many brethren and sisters in Malawi (around 2000 at present). The discovery was obviously a great spiritual boost to all concerned, and the wish was clearly to share fellowship around the Lord’s table.

I discussed the matter with the brethren concerned on several occasions, encouraging the “discovered” brother in particular to join our memorial service. The situation became distressing to him because of pressure from abroad not to join us. He had an admirable sense of loyalty not to go against the wishes of those who had taught him the truth from abroad. But he came to realize that his spiritual life would be greatly helped by joining with those who clearly shared his faith. It was therefore a great joy to see, on my recent visit to Malawi, our new brother participating fully in the memorial service, and thoroughly enthusiastic about it. Furthermore, he discovered that an old school friend was a brother in the Lilongwe ecclesia. It was all very heartwarming to see.

Letters from abroad continued to be directed at him, however, discouraging his membership in the ecclesia. Indeed, I received a letter myself from Britain saying that it would be “unhelpful” and “a hindrance to his spiritual welfare” for the brother to join us. I considered the advice ludicrous in the circumstances — indeed, quite unscriptural — and ig­nored it. I am convinced that exporters of division are so preoccupied with their own disputes that little heed is given to the spiritual well being of those most affected. The Lord must surely look with pleasure on this joyful fellowship now experienced, and I feel that we intrude upon it at our peril.

Sincerely your brother in Christ,
Ron Hicks, Bethesda, MD

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings in Jesus.

Thank you for sending “Tidings” to the Seoul, Korea ecclesia over the past year. Although there are few members of the ecclesia able to read English well enough to appreciate all the articles, it is good to see a row of magazines representing the Body in the Americas, alongside the Australian and English magazines — a physical witness to our fellowship with brethren and sisters so far away. Thank you for the high spiritual quality of the “Tidings”…

(Regarding) the editorial on exporting division, the sentiment of which was admirable.. .there are as yet no real conflict points (between Christadelphian fellowships) in Eastern Europe…

Sincerely, your brother in Christ,
Steven Cox, Seoul, Korea

Tax Advice Needed

Dear Bro. Don,

Loving greetings in our one hope.

We continue to find the “Tidings” ‘instructional and encouraging. Your editorials have been especially helpful to us.

At a recent CPA conference, the presenter was covering changes in standard deductions effective 1/1/94. He noted that charitable contributions over $500 could no longer be substantiated by a canceled check but must be acknowledged by a receipt from the charity.

If someone has information on this change either confirming or correcting the foregoing, a letter to the “Tidings” would be useful to many of us.

Yours in the Master’s name,
Howard Schlottman, San Diego, CA

We will be pleased to publish any information submitted on this matter.

Allow For Exceptions

Dear Bro. Don:

As individuals, to “allow for exceptions” is part of daily life: as brethren working with brethren, such allowance periodically happens: as ecclesial policy it spells disaster.

Who determines who or what constitutes an “exception” or “exceptional circumstances” or “unusual conditions?”

Practically speaking, there is always the exception, but in no case should the majority have faith or fellowship compromised in accommodating the exception,whether in the ecclesia or the brotherhood. In my view, “tradition” plays no part in the attitude or the decision: rather, God’s principles as articulated by our Lord, serve as the only valid standard –and those principles are both consistent and merciful.

There is little point in having a “hardline” policy as an ecclesia of Christ, whether in exceptional circumstances or not: just as there is no point in vacillating when faced with difficult decisions where fairness, tempered with mercy, demands our utter dedication to the doctrines taught by Christ and explored in detail by the apostles as to their application in a variety of behavioral circumstances.

I cannot agree that “if we withdraw from someone, it may well mean their death forever” — that judgment is reserved as God’s prerogative and has nothing whatever to do with decisions taken as individuals or as an ecclesia of individuals trying to do their best in every case, simple or complex.

In cases of withdrawal, often the “they” of your hypothesis precipitated the withdrawal by their offense.

Finally, when it comes to “refusing (or rejecting)” the visitor on the basis of “tradition,” we need to very carefully define who is a “visitor.” Once the facts are known, there will be no call to “casually” exclude that person or persons from fellowship, but rather, the opportunity to unequivocally apply the spirit of truth to the situation — which is the “tradition” in the Lord’s teaching and the measure of our discipleship.

Your brother by grace,
David 0. Millard, Sutton, MA

From The Islands

By request of the editors of the Caribbean Pioneer and underwritten by the generosity of a reader, the Tidings has recently been going to brethren and sisters in Caribbean ecclesias. Following is one of the responses received.

Dear Bro. Don,

Loving greetings in our Lord.

I’m a sister in isolation in Nassau -­though maybe not for long– and I wanted you to know what a joy it has been to receive the “Christadelphian Tidings” for the past few months. Very many thanks indeed. This little magazine has given form to my knowledge of a Chris­tadelphian presence in America — and it has been like finding a family member you never knew you had.

I remember your name from the time I was a child going with my Dad (Bro. Stan Howard) to the humble little meet­ing under someone’s house in New Amsterdam, Guyana…

There is a proposed mini Bible School and campaign planned here for October 23-28, 1993, God willing. Who knows what the future might hold — except his return.

Thank you so much for including me in your mailings — I look forward to seeing more names from my memory take some form!

Your sister by grace,
Penny Cates,
P.O. Box N-993, Nassau, Bahamas

We, too, remember the meeting under the house with the chicken pen behind the speaker’s position. Our time in Guyana was of great benefit to our own spiritual development as we learned much from our contact with the brethren there.

Resurrectional Responsibility

The volume of correspondence on this subject has required much editing of letters and answering a number of points in the general comments that follow. We appreciate the understanding of contributors as we strive to have the magazine serve the readership.

Corrections, explanations, etc.

Two typographical errors were made in the letter by Robert K. Widding (pg. 387, 9/93). His sixth sentence should read: “From thence, it was light, or a correct knowledge of God’s commands, which created responsibility.” We had “From these.” The last sentence in that paragraph should read: “That is to say, once a man achieves understanding, a change of status takes place — from ignorance, which begets ‘perishing without law,’ to knowledge of God’s commands, which begets resurrectional re­sponsibility.” We had “perishing with law.” Our apologies for these mistakes.

Identifying contributors

We neglected to identify Edward W. Farrar (pg. 326, 8/93) as editor of the Advocate magazine which is considered the fraternal magazine of the Unamended fellowship. Such identification would have been a courtesy to him and useful information to our readers.

In connection with this particular topic, some have requested that the fellowship or denominational affiliation of all contributors be identified. In the first place, this is not possible because we do not know everybody who writes, particularly “Letters to the Editor.” There are many recipients of Tidings who are not members of Central Fellowship or any other Christadelphian fellowship. Readers of long standing will remember that the magazine once had an objective of preaching the Truth to Bible students. For that reason, and others, a great variety of denominations are represented by those on the mailing list. Second, we accept anonymous contributions feeling they allow for a greater freedom of expression. In some cases, the writer is anonymous to us as well. Third, we would hope the great majority of Tidings readers are more concerned with well reasoned Biblical evidence than they are with human authorship. (It may be of interest that one Unamended writer quite persuasively argued for the resurrection of unbaptized rejecters.)

Contributions not in accord with BASF

Objections have been received that all material published is not in accord with the Birmingham Amended Statement of Faith (see note at bottom of inside front cover). Readers should please note that all such material has been in the form of “Letters to the editor” and clearly identified as such. The policy of the magazine applies to articles, such as that by Bro. Alvan Brittle (pg. 282, 7/ 93), but not to letters such as that received from Bro. Farrar.

Why allow discussion on a matter covered in the BASF? With the passage of time, ideas and communities change. The amendment to Clause 24 of the BASF formalized a division in the Chris­tadelphian community. It was adopted within the context of people who were living and ideas which were prevalent 100 years ago. That division has been healed everywhere else except in North America. There is some reason to feel that conditions may be right for a similar healing process to take place between the members of the Central Fellowship and many, if not all, members of the Unamended fellowship. Part of such a process is airing our respective points of view. That is the reason for the present interchange in the Tidings.

Editorial response

Some feel that editorial comments should be made immediately following any letter with which the editor does not agree. Regular readers of Tidings will know that we used to do that. Understandably, such a practice gradually reduced the readers’ willingness to express themselves, as they were always exposed to the editor’s immediate response. We now usually let a point of discussion carry on for a reasonable time before summarizing the matter and giving our own point of view. That has been our approach so far in this case.

On this responsibility matter, however, it may be well to answer letters as they are published and to state in advance our conviction. We believe all those who know the Truth and have been called upon to submit to it, will be raised for judgment. Furthermore, we feel the Bible evidence indicates we should not exclude from a resurrectional judgment those who may not know the whole Truth but have persecuted the people of God. In other words, we feel several factors are involved in God’s determination of who among the wicked will be raised for punishment, including knowledge, baptism, degree of iniquity, attitude and evidence seen.

Is hope for reunion justified?

Dear Bro. Don,

In the August editorial, you suggested that the narrow Unamended view on resurrectional responsibility was a movement away from orthodox theology, giving the readers the impression that our Amended fellowship should be willing to live with this Unamended view.

It is possible to err on both sides of many doctrines in the Truth. On the nature of Jesus Christ, some churches teach he was a pre-existing God and other religious groups claim Jesus was not even God’s son, but just a man. On resurrection, some churches teach that everyone will be resurrected, while the Sadducee’s didn’t think anyone would be resurrected.

On the use of the Old Testament, some churches teach the need to still follow a few of the rituals of the law while other churches claim we shouldn’t use the Old Testament at all. On the subject of baptism, some churches don’t baptize (or sprinkle)while other churches go to the opposite extreme of “baptizing” everyone, including babies.

Many times the truth of a doctrine rests somewhere between the extreme positions. Resurrectional responsibility is no different. If the  Unamended today fail to accept there will be a group of people resurrected for judgment who are not in covenant relationship with God, then the same problem still exists today that caused the division in the firs: place.

The Amended fellowship throughout the world have held this to be a vital first principle because it will affect the lives of many people who study the Bible and come to an understanding of the gospel.

About 20 years ago, the Unamended Reunion Committee polled their community with a questionnaire. One of the questions dealt with the three classes of people who would be resurrected to judgment as described by John Thomas in “The Revealed Mystery.” In the report the Unamended committee sent to the Unamended ecclesias on August 19, 1972, they stated: “Though the vast majority of our membership do not believe and teach that there is a class of enlightened rejecters (Dr. Thomas’ `second class’), who will appear at the judgment seat of Christ, only a minority would refuse fellowship to those who believe and teach entirely in accord with Dr. Thomas.”

We wonder now in 1993,  has anything changed?

To say, “That God has the power and prerogative to raise from the dead and judge any man in whatsoever time, place and manner that He alone may determine” (pg. 326, 8/93) may sound encouraging at first glance. However, this has been said for years by the same Unamended who also do not think the Bible indicates any enlightened rejecters will be raised for judgment. The statement “that no man can, by his own action or failure to act, immunize himself from the judgments of the Almighty” (op. cit.) again sounds encouraging, until further conversation reveals that many Unamended take this to mean that God will judge enlightened rejecters in this life only!

So, the question still remains , is there evidence today that the majority of the Unamended believe there will be a class of enlightened rejecters raised for judgment at some time and on any basis? This is the issue that must be reconciled. Any attempt to disguise or ignore it benefits no one. This only perpetuates mistrust and fosters ecclesial disunity.

If we have agreement on this issue, then let’s work for reunion; but if not, then we have no basis for a continental reunion today. To proceed in the ab­sence of agreement on this issue is equiva­lent to adapting the viewpoint that it should no longer be regarded as a first principle.

Your by grace,
Ken, Jim and Roy Styles, Novi, MI

The August editorial quite specifically said we do not agree with narrowing resurrectional responsibility to the baptized only. Our point was that the Unamended view on this subject is distinctively Christadelphian. The conclusion, that Amended and Unamended are two Christadelphian fellowships, was supported by other evidence and is acknowledged in your own letter by speaking about “reunion.” We would never write in such terms regarding the Seventh Day Adventists or the Mormons, for example.

Three points need to be made in regard to the balance of this letter. We ought to allow for modification in opinions over time. Recent events in the Middle East should convince us of that. Second, let’s keep our thinking straight throughout this discussion: one may not “believe and teach” that knowledge is the basis of resurrection to the judgment seat of Christ yet believe some unbaptized rejecters will be raised for punishment at a different time (note view of Bro. Roberts as cited below). Third, distances on this continent, which are twice as great as the British Isles and Europe (including Russia to the Urals), make a “continental reunion” virtually unattainable. Any healing of a 100­ year-old wound requires quiet conversations and warm personal relationships. Highly charged, occasional continental reunion meetings did not facilitate such a process.

Should division continue?

Dear Bro. Don:

…The real question is whether the current division into two fellowships on this issue can be justified from Scrip­tural principles or precedents. It seems to me that our authors, whose approach is to ask about Biblical fellowship prin­ciples and precedents, come out concluding that our current policies are indefensible. On the contrary, all of those who argue for the correctness and necessity of current fellowship practices…cite human sources or Scrip­tural examples of withdrawal ( e .g. I Tim. 6:3-5; Rom. 16:17-18 and II John 7-11) that apply only to teachers and to situations unlike our own…

Could you find someone to present the best case possible, based on Biblical evidence only, for the correctness of remaining separate from the Unamended and for the correctness of fellowship ecclesia-by-ecclesia rather than person-by-person? Such an article needs to address the apparent precedents set by the apostles when they did not insist on division and separation over the Ju­daizing issue in Galatians 1 and 2 or over the several serious issues present in some of the ecclesias of Revelation 2 , 3 .

In our one faith,
Jim Bahr, Hopewell, NJ

We would be pleased to publish an article along the lines suggested.

Dear Bro. Don,

…Here is some information of interest. Bro. John Thomas writes: “We believe, that the Scriptures teach the resurrection of the just and of the unjust who have died under times of knowledge, whose knowledge they have accepted: and the resurrection, 1,000 years afterward, of ‘the rest of the dead’ who have intelligently rejected it.. .the rest of the dead are those who never came under a constitution of righteousness; not because they did not know how, but because they refused to do so. Having been enlightened but preferring darkness to light, they will arise to judgment at the end of the millennium.” “Herald of the Kingdom,” 7/1855, pg. 161.

Bro. Roberts writes:

“As to those believing the truth but refusing to acknowledge and submit to it from sinister motives, it is not impossible these may be held responsible… persecutors of the apostolic era would come into the (raised rejecter) class by their rejection of the truth in the presence of miracles. Their cases will probably be dealt with at the close of the 1,000 years…” “The Christadelphian,” 6/1870, pg. 186. “It does not seem reasonable that those who put away the counsel of God from themselves should be passed over without judgment, and yet, since they do not become constituents of the household of faith, their resurrection, at the time when account is taken of that household, would seem inappropriate.” “Christendom Astray,” 1899 edition.

…If it has now become such a vital doctrine, essential to salvation, to believe that these rejecters will stand with the household at Christ’s return, then our pioneer brethren are in jeopardy of their salvation.

In the hope of Israel,
Gardner Howes, Sandwich, MA

When, whether at the beginning or the end of the 1,000 years, the unbaptized rejecter will be raised for punishment is not a vital matter. It is recognizing that some of such a class will be raised that is important to most Amended brethren.

Dear Bro. Don,

Isn’t it sad that we, the Christadel­phian body, have wasted so much time and effort concerning a group of people (the enlightened rejecters) who will not be in the kingdom anyway. Imagine if we, for all these years would have channeled our energies and money into preaching that have been spent for meetings and committees. How much would the Christadelphian body have grown?…

I am trying to imagine who is going to debate with the king of kings at the judgment seat as to who is and who is not present as we answer for all the things that we have done in our lives whether they be good or bad. I wonder what our answer will be as to why we did not unite in a joint effort to “preach the gospel to the world”…

Your brother in the one hope,
Sam DiLiberto, Jr., Maplewood, NJ

Yes, it does seem that elsewhere in the world, where the brotherhood has put this problem behind it, there is a more vigorous preaching effort and pastoral work. We would gently remind our readers, however, that such work is carried on using the BASF as the touchstone statement of faith. The Amendment was occasioned by the uncompromising assertion of a particular view on the atonement which, it was insisted, must be accepted for one to remain in fellowship.

Main issue involves the atonement

Dear Bro. Don,

…The main issue regarding the discussion on “Responsibility” is a difference in teaching on the atonement…Bro. Tim Ryan indicates (8/93, pg. 342) that Bro. Thomas and Roberts hesitated from causing division over the issue of “Responsibility.” While that may be true, Bro. Roberts did act when the issue widened to include atonement matters and after Bro.J . J. Andrew in 1894 introduced a motion for an addition to the Birmingham Statement of Faith to reinforce his views. (“That Christ having been raised from the dead through his own blood, it necessarily follows the dead in Christ will be raised through the same blood and, as a consequence, that the blood of Christ is not available for the resurrection of any who have died in Adam.”) The motion was defeated. Four years later, an amendment to the BSF was passed to block Bro. Andrew’s un­scriptural views. Six years later, in 1900, J.J. Andrew produced his own statement of faith stating God cannot raise an enlightened rejecter…

With love in Israel’s hope,
Bryan Pearse, Mississauga, ONT

Dear Bro. Don,

…The roots which make this a divisive problem are clustered around the issue of “Adamic Condemnation” and defining the legacy of sin that passed upon mankind from him. Genetically we are mortal as a result of Adam’s sin. Due to carnal mindedness and ignorance of God’s plan of salvation, we are alienated from him (Eph. 4:17-18).

We need to overcome carnal minded­ness through the influence ofGod’ sword and establish covenant relationship with Him through immersion into Christ for the hope of salvation.

In the hope of Israel,
Gil Phillips, Lake Hughes, CA

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings.

We can appreciate that the matter of who will be raised to judgment could be regarded as a marginal one. However, this is by no means the major doctrinal difference separating the Amended and Unamended fellowships. The Unamended doctrine of guilt inherited from Adam affects the most basic of Christadelphian doctrines, those of the atonement, the nature of man and the nature of the Lord Jesus. Nor is this doctrine of inherited guilt “distinctively Christadelphian,” being a movement towards the Catholic teaching of Original Sin…

It seems to us, therefore, that it is the question of the atonement and the nature of man and of the Lord Jesus that should be addressed, when discussing closer links between the two groups (both of which call themselves Christadelphians), rather than the matter of responsibility to judgment — which is a doctrine dependent on the other doctrines.

Your brother and sister in Christ,
Geoff & Ray Walker,
Stoke-on-Trent, UK
(Editors of Bible Student magazine)

Ironically, we seem to work out agreements with each other on the supposedly fundamental issues but have trouble with the “marginal” one.

The BASF as a touchstone

Dear Bro. Don,

…The relevant question is: “Is this really a first principle?” The evidence is that Brothers Thomas and Roberts, while “Amended” in theory, were “Unamended” in practice: that is, they refused to make the matter a test of

Be that as it may, we must face facts as they exist today:

  1. The BASF, with its amended Clause 24, has evolved into the “touchstone” of fellowship among Central Christadelphians.
  2. That body, with all its frailties and shortcomings, does constitute over 90% of all Christadelphians worldwide.
  3. Christadelphians have by now become so fictionalized and fearful of change that the possibility of reorganizing the fellowship of any sizable numbers on any basis other than the BASF is, frankly nonexistent.

The logical conclusion? That any effort toward unifying the “One Body” of Christ today needs to take into account this entrenched primacy of the BASF.

So where does this leave believers who are not sure that “knowledge brings resurrectional responsibility,” and those believers who do accept that premise but are still not sure that the question should be made a “test of fellowship?”

The answer is: They too can, and should, accept Clause 24– as amended — because (contrary to the assertions of some “Amended” brothers) the amendment does not absolutely teach that “all who know the Truth will be raised!”

…If there is uncertainty about “know,” there is much more about the phrase “called upon to submit to it” …to be “called” — scripturally — goes far beyond “knowledge:” “Those he called, he also justified” (Rom. 8:30); “…live lives worthy of God who calls you into his kingdom and glory” (I Thes. 2:12); “…as members of one body you were called to peace” (Col. 3 :15 )…out of more than 100 passages, the concept of “calling” is almost invariably associated with those who go onto be baptized.

…The Amendment is so worded that one might accept it while still not believing that all “enlightened rejectors” will be raised and judged by Christ at his second coming.

..Js everything in the Statement of Faith a true “first principle?” A literal reading of it under such an assumption would lead to some extraordinary conclusions about “first principles.” For example:

  1. Luke and Acts and Jude (and maybe James) are not part of Holy Scripture, because they are not the writing of either “prophets” or “apostles” (see the Foundation clause)!
  2. Jesus was raised from the dead on the third day, and not after three days (see Clause 13)!
  3. The future kingdom of God will not necessarily cover the whole earth (Clause 21)!

…The point is this: any man-made document, if subjected to the most intense scrutiny, will reveal defects. And any individual, if subjected to the same kind of examination against an imperfect document, may be found wanting.

…The above thoughts suggest two concluding exhortations, one to each of the two factions:

  1. Unamended brethren should accept the BASF because it is the only real hope of a unity basis in the brotherhood today and the amendment can be interpreted broadly enough to allow for all reasonable reservations on the subject.
  2. Amended brethren should stop trying to make their particular interpretations of the amendment a test of fellowship for everyone else.

George Booker, Austin, TX

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings in Jesus.

…The BASF and the Carter-Cooper addendum have established themselves as the generally accepted basis of fel­lowship for worldwide Christadelphia… There is no way that the brethren in North America can be successful in changing the basis of fellowship…God will indeed determine who will be raised to judgment and whether some of them will be unbaptized is certainly not a matter given us to know in individual cases.

Yours in the service of the brotherhood,
Harry Pearce, Strathfield, AUST

Consider the evidence

Dear Bro. Don,

…The late brother, John Carter, summed up the sufficiency of scripture evidence concerning the resurrection and judgment in the February, 1952 issue of “The Christadelphian.” He had just reviewed a reprint of “The World’s Redemption” by the Unamended brother, Thomas Williams. Bro. Carter then wrote, “A group of passages is given to show that the resurrection will include some who attain to life and some to condemnation: but why the absence of scripture citations in the other case (the view that only those who come under the law of the spirit of life — i.e. those who have been baptized)will be raised? The answer is that they cannot be produced”…

Your brother in Christ,
Ash Higham, Bloomington, IN

Dear Don,

The following may be helpful…

I believe that God has revealed His intention to raise and judge mankind for purposes of rewarding those who obeyed Him and condemning those who disobeyed Him. Scripture reveals that all will not be raised but gives little guidance as to why they will not be held responsible other than to describe them as lacking understanding as the “beasts that perish” (Psa. 49:20) which suggests gross ignorance of God’s will. I am not aware of any scripture that excludes people from being raised and judged because they have not been baptized.

I believe it is important to know and teach this principle because belief in a future reward or punishment leads to a desire to learn God’ swill and obey it. It is the motivating moral principle in God’s word. Confusion on this matter can play into our natural desire to be free of rules and obligations, free to serve ourselves.

We are free to ignore this principle, and rejoice in our heart, and do what is right in our own eyes, “but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment.”

Unless someone disagrees with the above principle, and wishes to assert another, I find little profit in debating the fine points of all the possible alternative meanings of every scripture that leads me to this conclusion…

With love in Christ,
Ken Sommerville, Northridge, CA

Christ and resurrection

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings in Jesus’ name.

..Is Bro. Farrar accusing us of not believing in the resurrection, or that Christ was not raised, and therefore our resurrection is on some other basis?…

Baptism represents an emulation of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. By God’s grace, we shall be raised because we have dedicated our lives to Christ and obeyed the command to be baptized into his death, burial and resurrection. What could be clearer? We have no theory that denies the connection between the resurrection of Jesus and our resurrection.

Yours with brotherly affection,
Stan Newton, Huntington Beach, CA

See the article by Bro. Paul Wade earlier in the magazine and the quote from J.J. Andrew in the letter from Bro. Bryan Pearse. Scripture emphasizes resurrection to eternal life not resuscitation to face judgment and Amended brethren pick up on that emphasis. With an eye to the ultimate goal of life, elliptic phrases are frequently used in scripture and by us. These can lead to misunderstanding unless we carefully consider all that is said and believed about resurrection and judgment. No, we were not being accused of erroneous beliefs.

Knowledge makes the difference

Dear Bro. Don,

…(Extended quotes from “Anastasis” by Bro. John Thomas are supplied developing the doctrine that unbaptized rejectors will be raised for punishment. We would commend that pamphlet on this topic.)

To add to what is written in “Anas­tasis,” we quote some words of Christ and no one can ignore what he meant: “Now you say you see, therefore your sin remaineth” (John 9:41)…

Bro. John Brewis, Ft. Erie, ONT

Response to Bro. Farrar

…The basis of resurrectional accountability is not focused on in the OT neither is resurrection itself as the word does not appear in the OT…

“I am the resurrection and the life” (Jesus to Martha John 11:25). Would it have been appropriate for Jesus to have said, “I am the resurrection for the damnation and the life of man?” Only the positive aspect of the resurrection was addressed here.

…In Acts 2 the subject is Christ and his authority to forgive and save. Peter addressed the subject of accountability in Acts 3:23.

(A basic question has been addressed to the editor, “Why does God raise anyone for punishment?” which will be addressed next month, Lord willing.)

Resurrection Responsibility

Dear Brother Don,

It may be important to point out that controversy on this issue is largely unknown today except in North America, and it has generally occurred here only where there has been a unique teaching about our relationship to our first parents. This teaching is that condemnation in Adam holds us in the grave and that we must be released from that legal state of condemnation in order to be resurrected. The theory is that only those in covenant relationship with the Father (in this age, by baptism) will be raised for judgment.

This concept appeared in the 1890’s in the writings of Bro. J. J. Andrew who subsequently withdrew from the brotherhood. His assertions are considered extreme by most brethren today, but his basic ideas continue to be taught in a number of ecclesias in North America not in the Central fellowship.

Bro. Roberts had been careful not to take an extreme position as to who might be classified as “enlightened rejecters,” but he repudiated the Andrew theory emphatically.

“It may be that God is compelling us to cease this parley with an untrue doctrine, and leading us to insist with greater stress and solemnity on the fact that he that rejecteth Christ and receiveth not his words shall be judged by those words in the last day, whether Jew or Gentile, since the extension of those words to the Gentiles, equally with the Jews” (Christadelphian, 1896, p. 396).

It is true that our resurrection would not be possible if Christ had not preceded us — but this fact does not disallow the raising for judgment of those who have been fully enlightened by the gospel of Christ.

Your brother,
Joe Banta, Austin, 7X

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings in the name of Jesus.

Regarding the August item on Resurrection to Judgment (Edward Farrar) and the letter to the editor on the same subject (Tim Ryan), I respectfully offer the following.

While the first writer declares that “God has the power and prerogative to raise from the dead and judge any man in whatsoever time place and manner that He alone may determine: that no man can, by his own action or failure to act, immunize himself from the judgments of the Almighty” and the second writer clearly acknowledges that both Bre. Thomas and Roberts agreed with Bro. Brittle’s understanding (July magazine) “on the doctrine of responsibility itself,” it is patently clear that their thrust is to remove the fellowship positions between those associated with the BASF and those associated with the BUSF. As you well know, this effort is not new nor is the circuitous treatment of the subject matter by the writers.

What both writers fail to address is the fact that ecclesias associated with the BUSF (the Unamended community) have in their midst those who categorically believe and teach that God will not, yea, cannot, raise an unbaptized person for judgment due to a “legal” binding to the grave at death. The eccle­sias throughout the world associated with the BASF reject this position and, for good reason, believe the matter is important.

In spite of Tim Ryan’s assertion that “I know very many Unamended brothers and sisters and none I have ever met desire to limit God’s sovereignty,” there are, in fact, those in the Unamended community who, by their teaching, do just that.

Although I, too, know many Unamended members who do not believe or teach such a limitation as I have noted, it remains that their knowing fel­lowship with those who teach such error causes a reluctance on the part of the Amended brotherhood to join them at the Lord’s table.

Tim Ryan alludes to Dr. Thomas supporting the belief in responsibility to the judgment seat of some unbaptized in Anastasis (pg. 42). He could well have quoted Bro. Thomas from several other works including Elpis Israel.

“But men are not only made, or constituted sinners by the disobedience of Adam, but they become sinners, as he, by actual transgression. Having attained the maturity of their nature, they become accountable and responsible creatures. At this crisis, they may be placed by the divine arranging in a relation to His Word. It becomes to them a tree of life, inviting them to take and eat and live forever. If, however, they prefer to eat of the world’s forbidden fruit, they come under the sentence of death in their own behalf They are thus doubly condemned. They are condemned already to the dust as natural born sinners; and secondarily condemned to a resurrection to judgment for rejecting the gospel of the kingdom of God” (P g. 130-131).

This is either true or false! What becomes vital, involving one’s salvation, is the teaching that God will not raise a person unless they are baptized. This has the awful potential of becoming the underlying reason for one not committing himself to the saving gospel. Regardless of a person’s knowledge, wrong instruction given to interested individuals (Sunday School scholars, friends, visitors, etc.) on this matter is critical. If the slightest possibility exists that a person may appear before the judgment seat of Christ, anything discouraging them from at least trying to obey, could rob that person of an opportunity for a place in the kingdom. This could be disastrous for both teacher and student.

Those of us in the Amended community sincerely and prayerfully seek a oneness in what is believed and taught respecting the judgment seat of our Lord. With the existence of what still appear to be sharply contradicting positions within the Unamended community, we reluctantly acknowledge that such a oneness does not exist.

Your brother in Christ,
William Butts, Alexandria, VA

Dear Bro. Don,

A time to write.

Many years ago, writings appeared totally adversarial to the Unamended brethren. They seemed to have as their primary mission the preservation of the status quo. Those writings denied Jesus possessed a defiled nature. They taught that since Jesus had no personal sins, his death was not a sacrifice for himself

I was young in age and in the Truth and was quite abashed over these errors, yet nothing happened. No one objected. The writers continued to develop these points to another impressionable generation. No opportunity was given in the Amended forum to explain any disagreement. I was turned off by this approach and focused my attention on the Unamended, driven from the Amended by what! perceived as prejudice and unfeeling discrimination.

Twenty years have gone by and I see the same problem everywhere. It takes different bents and labels but it remains the propensity to be remote from others of “like precious faith.” Leaving aside the many mini-divisions that continue to occur, the three basic groups are an enigma to the profound teaching of scriptural unity. This is a sad commentary on the flesh’s frustrating control over us.

Yet I detect a new sound, things said and written that I never thought would be. The fall of the “iron curtain” which, to our generation, has always been there, is a portent of things happening among us. The new respect for unity in the body stirring into actual movement is too obvious for even me to deny. I actually find it incredible. I have not liked the methods nor the confusion. (I feel like an East German border guard. I can’t shoot, there are no new orders, what do I do?)

I feel I can be a voice for moderation. In major changes, there are always excesses with resultant hurts. It is not enough to do things, it is how we do them that tells whether Christ be in us or not.

Not knowing “The Tidings” methods, I have viewed it with caution. When I read Bro. Brittle’s article in the July issue on knowledge as the basis for re­sponsibility to resurrection and judgment, I was turned off This seemed like business as usual: an unfeeling attitude to any difference in opinion.

Then the August issue arrived and Bro. Ted Farrar’s rejoinder warmed my heart (Dean Brown’s and Tim Ryan’s, too). The Shibboleth of labels must cease! The two statements of faith must not be thought of as foreign to one another. The BASF is but the extension of an idea, not a different statement. We need to be fair and kind with one another.

My opinion is that…to strive for exactitude in this life with one another can only bring failure.

We have a legacy of negative righteousness…and we can perpetuate it if we choose. But if ..brethren can really share without prejudice “the one faith once delivered unto the saints” there is hope…The Unamended brethren are not short on the Truth. Let us truly come together “in the bonds of peace.” They shall know we are brethren by our love.

Your brother in Christ,
Ray Riley, Napa, CA

Dear Bro. Don,

May I express my deep appreciation for your willingness to present subjects for discussion: for example Bro. Edward Farrar’s letter/article in the August magazine.

It is about time that meaningful dialogue be opened up on this long festering thorn in the flesh of Christaelphia which is called, “resurrectional judgment” or “responsibility.”

I thank God for your editorship. Fraternal love in Jesus,
Gil Phillips, Lake Hughes, CA

Dear Bro. Styles,

The apostle Paul sets forth the only basis for resurrectional responsibility in Romans 2:12,16: “Therefore, as many as have sinned without law, will perish also without law; and as many as sinned under law, will be judged by law; in a day when according to my Glad Tidings, God will judge hidden things of men through Christ Jesus” (Emphatic Dioglott). Those who come under the operation of God’s law are to be resurrected for judgment at the return of Christ — all others having perished through never coming under its operation.

Who places man under law? God or man? The example was set in the beginning. Deity placed man under law by a simple command. Man broke the command and suffered the consequences. From these, it was light, or a correct knowledge of God’s commands, which created responsibility. As Bro. Thomas stated in 1870, “They (Christadelphians) teach that it is knowledge that makes responsible; so that ‘man that is in honor and understandeth not, is as the beasts that perish’ (Psa. 49:1220).” That is to say, once a man achieves understanding, a change of status takes place -­from ignorance, which begets “perishing with law,” to knowledge of God’s commands, which begets resurrectional responsibility.

While virtually all the gentiles escaped this responsibility during the Mosaic age, such has not been the case since the command to obey the gospel was sent to them during the ministry of the apostles. Since then, the times of ignorance has been replace by the times of knowledge: “Therefore, indeed, overlooking the time of ignorance, God now commands all men, in every place, to reform; because he has established a day in which he is about to judge the habitable in righteousness, by a man whom he has appointed, having furnished a proof to all by raising him from the dead” (Acts 17:30-31). A command from Deity places man under law, and, having correctly understood it, he becomes responsible to be judged thereby a day when, according to my Glad Tidings, God will judge hidden things of men through Christ Jesus.”

The degree of knowledge that is necessary in order to make one responsible may be gleaned from these verses. Man must properly understand: (a) He who is issuing the command; (b) what is reformation; (c) the consequences of obedience to the command (covenant relationship and the race toward the kingdom); (d) the consequences of disobedience (resurrection to condemnation). If the complete terms of the command are not correctly understood, the individual has “wandered out of the way of understanding,” and will “remain in the congregation of the dead.”

The original Christadelphian position concerning this doctrine may be found in “The Revealed Mystery ( 1869). Therein, Bro. Thomas lists this teaching in the “Summary of the Christianity Revealed in the Bible” (pg. 14, #46) and “A Discourse on Eternal Life” (pp. 21,25). In “Anastasia” (1866), he wrote: “An enlightened sinner cannot evade the consequences of his illumination. I have known some of this class to flatter themselves that they would not be called forth to judgment; but would perish as the beasts, if they did not come under law to Christ. Such reasoning, however, is simply the deceitfulness of sin” (pgs. 40-41). In the October 1898 issue of “The Christadelphian,” Bro. Roberts wrote: “This is a first principle of the revealed system of truth.”

In Israel’s Hope,
Robert K. Widding
P.O. Box 7272,
Little Rock AK 72217

(Other letters on this topic are deferred to next month, Lord willing. Readers are reminded letters should be no more than 600 words in length.)

Is Christ Missing?

Would the sister who wrote a letter which appeared under this heading in the February, 1992 “Tidings” please contact us? We only save original copy for six months and have discarded the original letter. Now someone would like to have direct correspondence with you on the subject you raised.

U.S. Citizenship

An inquiry was received regarding the acceptability of resident alien Christadelphians seeking United States citizenship status. We were told the commitments involved have been modified so as to make them tolerable to people with our convictions. The caller was referred to our Bro. Roy Styles. As the U.S. Amended contact for military service and conscientious objector matters, we felt Bro. Roy could handle the matter more expeditiously than ourself.

The following information and letter is reproduced here as it may be of inter­est to others.

From the U.S. government bulletin on Citizenship Education and Naturalization Information:

The oath of citizenship is:

“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. In acknowledgment whereof I have hereunto affixed my signature.”

In some cases, INS allows the oath to be taken without the clauses:

“…that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by law…”

Dear……..

Loving greetings in our one hope.

I sincerely hope and pray that you will rethink your decision to go forward with U.S. citizenship. There are a couple of aspects about it that are most disturbing.

  1. “Our citizenship is in heaven from which we eagerly wait the Lord Jesus Christ” (Phil. 3:20). We are not free to deliberately choose to become citizens of any country of this world. We are now “a chosen generation.. .a holy nation, His own special people…called out of darkness” (Eph. 2:19).
  2. We are not free to take any oath of allegiance and fidelity to any country of this world. “Above all my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth, or with any other oath” (Jam. 5:12; Matt. 5:34).

The oath of citizenship requires one to “declare, on oath, that! will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that 1 will bear true faith and allegiance to the same…and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.” This is an oath which we cannot take.

We can only obey the laws of the country in which we live so long as they do not conflict with the commandments of our Lord (Acts 5 :29). We are not free to uphold the Constitution by voting, or by participating in politics. We cannot vote for one candidate over another when we have no idea who the angels want in power for their purpose. We cannot agree to serve on a jury where we would be expected to decide upon the defendant’s actions in relation to the laws of the state without regard to the principles of Christ. We cannot use the legal system to protect our own interests (Lk. 6:29-30; I Cor. 6:1-7).

The whole world lies in wickedness and we have been crucified to the world and the world to us (I John 5:19; Gal. 6:14). No servant can serve two masters…we cannot serve God and mammon (Lk. 16:13).

Please bear with me for speaking plainly. The Truth is our treasure. The world has nothing to offer us. We eagerly await our king. Our eyes are fixed on him.

May God be with you and bless your efforts to uphold His Truth.

Much love in our Lord,
Roy A. Styles, Livonia, MI

Alan Eyre’s Open Letter

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings in the hope of Israel.

I am writing in response to two letters in the July, 1993 “Tidings.” The two writers claim that the U.S. Constitution will save us the conflict of conscience Bro. Eyre warned us is rapidly coming upon us.

Please read the whole constitution. It also says that the President of the United States is commander in chief of the U.S. Armed Forces and that only congress can declare war! But President Bush invaded Somalia — and U.S. troops are still there under the command of a United Nations General from Turkey! This general does not have to account to the president or congress! The intent of the constitution has thus been effectively circumvented. Also, President Clinton sent troops to Macedonia this time under a Danish general.

There are so many “laws” on the books that if the government wants to get at a certain person or group, it will.

I cite the case of Randy Weaver. His “crime” was to sell a shotgun that was sawed off 1/4 inch too much! It ended up as an 11 day seige in Idaho in August, 1992 costing over $1 million. Recently, Mr. Weaver was cleared of all charges except two minor offences…