North American Benevolent Fund
Dear Bro. Don,
1 John 3:17 gives us clear understanding of the mind of Christ on the matter of benevolent assistance within the brotherhood.
Perhaps the anonymous letter writer (and parent), appearing to refuse even “temporary relief’ to family members facing a grave financial crisis, may want to look again at what John has to say on the subject. (Tidings, 1/92, pp. 22,23.)
Often, the psychological, emotional and physical problems relating to or arising from financial difficulties, as serious as those described, are punishment enough and ought not to be compounded by any self-righteous attitude on the part of others. Some decline to help through misplaced “kindness” or exalted concerns for the “eternal welfare” of those struggling with their humanity now. Family, especially, needs to help now, saving the exhortations until the crisis is over or relieved. Then is the time to set forth a helpful course of action or procedure for the future.
With love in the Lord, your brother by grace,
David 0. Millard, Sutton, MA
Dear Bro. Don,
I found Bro. George Rayner’ s letter to the editor in the January Tidings quite interesting. His thoughts on helping brethren and sisters by supporting the companies they are employed by, or that they own, by purchasing that company’s goods, were very sound advice in these last days. With business failures contributing to rising costs and rising unemployment, the brotherhood as a whole cannot help feeling the pressure of these trying times.
…I operate my own business. My business is computer oriented with services ranging from mechanical engineering consulting to desktop publishing and word processing. As such, I can help further Bro. George’s ideas by making it easier to contact businesses that are owned by brethren and sisters.
With cooperation from those brethren and sisters who operate their own businesses, I could publish a Directory of Christadelphian Operated Businesses. This directory would include the business name, address, telephone number, a description of the business and its services, the name(s) of the Christadelphian owner(s), how to contact them and any other relevant information about the business. Anyone interested in more information about this should contact me at the address below.
A project of this sort will require funding. I can provide time and expertise but the costs of printing and distribution would be beyond my ability. I am reluctant to suggest a fee for being include in such a directory, however , I do feel that those included in this directory should be the ones to fund its production. Anyone wishing to could send a donation to help cover expenses of this project. Hopefully with this, we would be able to provide directories free of charge to any who desired. Any checks should be made out to North East Compu-Graphics, noting on the check that this is a donation for the directory.
…It is my hope that this effort will help support our brethren and sisters by making the service of the business they own available to the rest of their spiritual family.
Your brother in the one hope,
Craig S. Nevers
37 Harold St.
Warwick, RI 02888
(401)467-4391
A Cry For Help
Several months ago, a letter was received without signature or return address with a request that it appear in the Tidings unchanged. The letter was occasioned by Bro. George Rayner’s remarks in the “Signs of the Times” for November, 1991. He observed the rapid increase in membership in a church that caters to homosexuals. The correspondent reflected an attitude that our community has a naive view of the homosexual problem and that we have an unhelpful approach to those who have such a tendency. Useful comments were included, exhorting prayer for strength and expressing confidence God will not tempt us beyond what we are able to endure.
We had hesitated to publish the letter, feeling that its distinctive idiom probably would reveal the author’s identity to those who know him. And we feel the issue it addressed, while significant in the world, is hardly so in the brotherhood. Then Bro. Rayner received a copy requesting his response. Somebody in the community is asking for help and the only way we can reach him is through this column. We have, therefore, decided to publish responses from Bro. George and myself with hopes that they will be of some assistance.
Dear Bro. Don,
The main point of the November “Signs of the Times” article was to report that the mainstream religious organizations are integrating homosexuals into both their congregations and also their ministries. This is significant as it heralds the soon return of our Lord Jesus Christ. By his own words, Christ, in reference to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah states, “So will it be on the day when the Son of man is revealed” (Luke 17:30). The article was not written as a condemnation against homosexuals, nor by my own authority do I personally condemn homosexuals. It is the scriptures that are direct in their condemnation of homosexual behavior; in God’s eyes, the behavior is abhorred (Lev. 18 :22 ; Rom. 1:26-36 to name a few verses). It is upon this basis that my comments were made.
I was interested to learn from this letter that individuals are either born homosexual or that the behavior is learned at an early age. Not having done enough research to dispute or support this assertion,we need only look to scripture to realize that a statement of this type is often a prelude to justifying wrong conduct. Scripture informs us that man is prone to sin (Rom. 6:12; 7:15-20) and the thoughts of his heart are evil continually. Yet, this fact does not justify any grievous acts that may be committed by followers of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Many mainstream churches conclude their theological studies in the same fashion as this letter was concluded. They argue that it is alright to be a homosexual provided you are non-practicing. This type of argument seeks to make an artificial distinction where there is none. This is clearly missing the point made in scripture. Homosexuality, like murder, theft and idolatry, are sins condemned by God and originating within our own hearts.
We all struggle with the inclination to sin. It is always crouching at our door. We must not be further deceived by the human justification for sin that emanates from the established institutions of our day. For “to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the spirit is life and peace” (Rom. 8:6).
Much love, your brother in Christ,
George Rayner
Dear Correspondent,
In addition to the general predisposition to sin, all disciples have certain pronounced behavioral problems resulting from inherited or environmental factors. Some have been raised in poverty. Once they have financial security, they may dread ever losing it and thus have to struggle more than most against the sins of covetousness and faithlessness. Some have been treated brutally as children and struggle to treat their spouses and children with kindness rather than cruelty. Some people don’ t have much energy, a condition which can minimize their accomplishments and inhibit their usefulness in the Truth. Others are high strung and prone to be easily agitated and aggressive. You are not alone in having a particularly difficult problem that you must keep under control.
It is not sin to have the problem. It is sin to let it direct your conduct or dominate your thinking.
Your problem is particularly difficult for two reasons:
- If you give in to it, the sin involved is heinous to God. We must not justify homosexuality because it is gaining acceptance in society. In the end, God is our judge. To be saved, we must respect and conform to His standards.
- In suppressing your homosexual preference, you will find a tendency to fantasize satisfaction by reading or viewing erotic material. “Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart” speaks of sin in our minds. When we mentally relish what God deplores, we commit sin. Furthermore, you will only hurt yourself by resorting to trashy entertainment. Pornography is degrading. The mind is where we communicate with God; filling it with lustful thoughts harms our relationship with Him.
Christadelphians are not insensitive or callous to your dilemma. We don’t doubt that a loving, satisfying relationship is possible with one of the same sex. When that relationship crosses over to homosexuality, however, it is a sin grouped in scripture with murder, idolatry, etc. Although all of us often are beset with inner conflicts, we must say, along with our Savior, not my will, but thine be done.
You have the keys to right conduct: prayer and faith. “If we ask anything according to his will…” It is clearly God’s will that we not commit the sin of homosexuality. If you do your part, He will do His. As you say, you can rest assured that He will not tempt you beyond what you are able to endure. Go forward in that strength and strive not to be overcome by doubts or the standards of this age.
Yours in Christ,
The Editor
A View of Christadelphians
Dear Editor,
With regard to the Megiddo Church…In the Encyclopedia of American Religions by Melton, they are classified as part of the holiness family of sects while Christadelphians are considered part of the Baptist family of sects (no doubt because we insist on the necessity of immersion while the Megiddo group denies it, ed.)…
Some would view you as a cult because you deny the deity of Jesus, claim to be the sole group possessing the Truth, have a faulty view of the atonement and teach salvation by works. With regard to the atonement, your difference seems to be a matter of terminology; with regard to salvation by works, I can find little difference between your teaching and the Campbellite group you derived from, who are considered orthodox…I have seen some evidence that you teach a person must agree in every detail of your last-days interpretation system to be saved. This seems to place a great deal of emphasis on Bible knowledge over actual relationship with Jesus.
There seems to be more interest in getting people to believe in soul sleep, etc., than in having their sins forgiven…
Johnny Plunkett, Smyrna, GA
If people want to consider us a cult, they do so by their own definition.
Christadelphians were recently featured on a call-in radio program in our area and labeled as a cult because we reject the trinity. When asked where the trinity is taught in the Bible, the host finally admitted it is not. He acknowledged the doctrine developed after the first century and justified it by claiming the church had authority to add to biblical revelation. This, of course, flies in the face of the clear warning of scripture, “If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book…” (Rev. 22:18). Accordingly, when the choice is between church teaching and Bible revelation, we recognize scripture as complete and wholly authoritative.
Our differences from orthodox Christendom on the atonement are far greater than might appear from the words “substitute” (orthodox view of the sacrifice of Christ) and “representative” (the Christadelphian teaching). If Christ died as our substitute, the debt for sins is paid, which is the orthodox teaching. The implications of this doctrine upon our daily conduct are enormous. Once a debt is paid, it does not have to be forgiven (the two are mutually exclusive); we would not have to repent of our sins (you don’t repent of accumulating a debt that is paid), and the incentive to forsake sin would be minimal (if Christ is our substitute, why follow his example?). The effects of such teaching is to rob the gospel of its transforming power.
The same implications are evident in the false doctrine of the conscious state of the dead. If a person is conscious after death, they must continually and eternally experience either a bad existence (hell) or a good one (heaven). Does anyone think they are bad enough to continuously suffer forever? Does 70 years of sin deserve an eternity of torment? Nobody thinks he is that bad! How many times have you heard that some deceased person is “looking up” at us from hell? That’s never said. They’re always “looking down” at us from heaven. Then why try so hard to please God if a little effort will get us to heaven? We don’t make a big issue out of the unconscious state of the dead just to be different. We do so because the state of the dead is clearly taught in scripture and a right belief in this matter has a significant impact on one’s conduct. “For the grave cannot praise thee, death cannot celebrate thee: they that go down to the pit cannot hope for thy truth” (Isa. 38:18).
In regard to salvation, we believe exactly what scripture teaches, “by grace are ye saved through faith…not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works…For this we know, that no whore monger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man…hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words…” (Eph. 2:8-10; 5:5-6).
We do believe we have the Truth. But that does not exclude the possibility other communities exist which do as well.
Anyone regularly reading this magazine should realize members of our community do not agree on all of the details of last-day prophecies. We do not make matters a test of fellowship unless they are clearly stated in the Bible and unless they significantly impact one’s relationship with God, with Christ or with other people.
The Church vs. The Jews
Dear Bro. Styles,
Our brotherhood seems to be getting away from the teaching that Catholicism is the instigator of Israel’s problem. Why? Throughout history, God has used Babylon to punish Israel for her disobedience. The Papacy is still “Babylon” and is still Israel’s greatest enemy. She will continue in this role until God sends forth His Son to conquer “Babylon.”
The papal history toward the Jews is one of utter horror. There were the pogroms in Spain, Italy, France, Germany and Russia and now she is stirring up the Arabs…
Funk & Wagnall’ s Encyclopedia has this to say on antisemitism, “Certain features of this (Catholic) history are especially relevant to the objectives of organized antisemitism.” The Catholic Church is the organized body with objectives of gaining control of Jerusalem for themselves. This objective goes back as far as the crusades, instigated by the popes of Rome …The papacy does not even recognize Israel’s existence but will allow the head of the PLO to visit with the pope.
The teachings of Roman Catholicism are the carry over of Babylon’s idolatry versus God’s word among the Jews. While the Jews have fallen away from God’s commands, they still maintain the teaching of one God.. .the Jews are a thorn to Rome’s quest for world domination.
In contrast, Mahommet’ s teachings (Islam) are a mixture of Roman Catholicism, Greek orthodoxy and Judaism. In this world, the iron of Rome (Babylon, Dan. 2) is still the toughest of them all. Only Christ’s return will break her teachings to pieces as they are fit only for the fire of God’s wrath. By peace, she will destroy millions. She is advocating peace with her “dove” symbol as we see.
There are tens of millions of Catholics in Russia right now who will soon join with the others to try and form the EEC of confederated Europe. How far she will succeed only God knows. How will we stand in that day?
Sis. A. Mulder, Lowbanks, ONT
We appreciate your reminder of the often subtle maneuverings of the Roman church. The Bible Magazine published at Box 2004, Prince George, BC, Canada, V2N 2J6 regularly emphasizes the influence of the Catholic system. They have a number of non-Christadelphian works available documenting this thesis.
The emphasis of the Tidings has been on the apostate system versus the believer as developed in the articles by Bro. Joe Banta. We feel that is the great warning of the Revelation and a point believers in North America should always remember.
The antisemitic practices ‘of the apostate church, while reprehensible, are part of the general punishment of God upon the Jews. Wherever they have gone, they eventually have become the objects of hurtful discrimination and of persecution (Deut. 28:65-67; A History of the Jews, Solomon Grayzel, Jewish Publication Society). For example, this was true under Moslem rule in the east in the ninth through 11th centuries and under Catholic rule in the west during the Middle Ages. In the wonder of God’s control, however, the Jews have always had someplace to flee that they might be preserved as a people.
Megiddo Mission
Dear Bro. Don,
…I was surprised to see the letter from Bro. Allan Taylor of New Zealand about the Megiddo Church here in Rochester…
I have acquired a set of their pamphlets and these confirm what Bro. Allan also noted…
Their most significant error appears to be that they believe the necessity for baptism stopped at the same time as the gifts of the Holy Spirit…
They are of a very conservative gender, being quite concerned with dress and clothing styles and with the devices of modern man…
Their pamphlet also indicates that they only have a memorial service at Passover…At one point in their past, they had a female pastor/ leader…
May His blessing remain with you as we endure these troubling times.
Bill Leathersich, Churchville, NY
In the course of preaching in Poland, a brother has come across members of the Megiddo Mission group, some of whom he felt could be amenable to the Truth. These contacts led to communication with the Mission’s Rochester, NY headquarters. As a result, their leader has offered to have a written debate on the atonement which would appear in both a Christadelphian journal and their periodical, the Megiddo Message. Lord willing, the debate will appear in the Tidings later this year.
“Nailed To The Cross”
Dear Bro. Don,
In the February, 1992 “Tidings,” p. 56, you offer a seven-point response to my letter on the above topic. We agree on points #1 and #7. On the other five, our differences range from issues of substance to matters of emphasis. To illustrate both, my revision of your second paragraph of point #6: “…those who sought justification through the Law (you should have said the works of the Law) would find it a harbinger of death, not of life. Those who were rightly tutored by the law would find it led to life, not (you should delete the “not”) under its own terms but in our Lord Jesus Christ.” “Its own terms” were God’s terms, being the same for Joshua and for Solomon as for Isaac and for Timothy.
A comprehensive response would involve extensive exposition. Permit me to try another approach. It is only through identifying the right questions that we discover the right answers. Unless we pinpoint the problem, we never find the resolution. So here are the questions!
Regarding your point #6: “…a disannulling of the commandment…” (Heb. 7:18). You apparently apply this to God’s law, the law of Moses, in total. Clearly a “commandment” has been annulled. The question is, which specific commandment? The context supplies the answer.
Have you carefully studied 2 Cor. 3, observing precisely what is said, and not said, regarding the supposed “annulment” of the law?
Regarding #2: agreed that the Law, in all its elements, was fulfilled by and in the Lord Jesus. You seem to equate “fulfilled” with “annulled,” and consequently “nailed to the cross,” having been “abolished,” “terminated.” How, then, do you understand Matt. 5:17-20, and “Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law” (Rom. 3:31).
Do you think, further, in relation to the law, that the sentiments of Psalm 119 have a significance limited to those living under the law. Or do they have equally powerful significance for us? Consider, for example, verses 1,34,44, etc..
Regarding #3 & #4: granted that David’s hope of redemption focused in the promised seed. Can you read the whole of Psalm 119 without concluding that God’s law, in which the Psalmist rejoiced, offered him justification by faith and, consequently, eternal life? Is it not apparent that David had looked beneath the surface and uncovered marvelous, eternal truths (Prov. 25:2)?
Regarding #4: you suggest the law did not “provide forgiveness for sins of the mind.” When you consider Psalm 19, particularly vs. 12-14, do you think David would accept your conclusion?
You refer to Hebrews 10 :4, “For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins,” requiring repeated forgiveness. You seem to imply that the law did not, thereby, “provide forgiveness,” at least for some sins. How, then do you understand Psalm 51, noting ,for instance vs. 9,10, ” …All mine iniquities…” and “…a clean heart…”? Do you suppose that v.17 takes David above, beyond and outside of God’s law? Or does it take him and us to the very essence of its message? The sins of adultery and murder were forgiven. Would forgiveness have been unavailable if lust and self-indulgence had remained in his mind, unsatisfied in the flesh? Or was forgiveness provided on some basis other than divine law? Was this demonstration of mercy consistent with the law of the Lord? Or was it inconsistent with its principles?
Why did Jesus identify “mercy” as one of “the weightier matters of the law?” After the Lord revealed His primary characteristic as “merciful,” was His mercy shaded, modified and limited in His subsequent revelation through the same Moses (Ex. 34:6)? Or was God’s message to Israel, collectively, somehow different and distinct from the principles upon which He dealt with individual Israelites? In Luke 24 :25 -27 , 44-49 , would Jesus have indicated that the principles of eternal salvation, through the Messiah, are discernible in some parts of scripture, but omitted from others? or that they are revealed on every page?
Regarding #2 through #6: have you ever tried to delineate those portions of Moses’ writings that constitute “the law of Moses?” Which chapters, which segments of chapters, do you include? Which do you exclude? It is a highly instructive exercise. It helps us discover what the Psalmist learned before us.
I remember Bro. Harry Tennant saying, years ago, “What you teach people, they will forget. What you help them discover, they will retain.” So, Brother Don, and dear reader, “Search the scriptures,” (the Old Testament) ‘for in them ye think (correctly) ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me” (John 5:39). It was the perverted approach of “the Jews” (v.10) that was wrong; the basic assumption regarding the power of the Word was correct.
Sincerely, your brother,
Silvanus
Your questions have usefully exposed the key points.
David was forgiven! But what sacrifice was offered to make atonement for his sin? Was it the sin offering which was for sins of ignorance (Lev. 4:2)? That would not do, for David was not ignorant in this matter; he had “despised the commandment of the LORD” (2 Sam. 12:9,10). What about the trespass offering? That was for deceit and theft, not for murder and adultery (Lev. 6:2-3). Furthermore, that offering required reparation which was impossible to do for Uriah. There was no animal sacrifice that would do. “For thou desirest not sacrifice…The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit…” (Psa. 51:16,17). The law of the Lord went beyond the Law of Moses; it included the scripture, “Abraham believed God and it was counted unto him for righteousness.” David knew the full implications of those words, “David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven…” (Rom. 4:3,6,7). David was not forgiven under the terms of God’s covenant with Israel but on the basis of His covenant with Adam and Abraham.
When David exalted in the law of the Lord (Psa. 119), it was in the total out-working of Divine principles of which the Law of Moses was but a very specific and limited part.
Certainly the divine principles of justice, mercy and faith are interwoven into the very fabric of the Law of Moses. The children of Israel were to be impartial in judgment (justice), love their neighbors (mercy) and trust God would provide if they gave generously to those in need (faith). But the whole system of sacrifice, priesthood and tabernacle ended in Christ — nailed to his cross. The washings, dietary rules and all statutes dealing with externals ended with the ministration of the spirit — nailed to the cross. Even the 10 commandments were done away because the gospel applies their principles to the heart and mind.
The Law of Moses was designed to educate the Jewish nation so that “sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful” and thereby they would be drawn to rely on their coming Messiah. They did not respond. But in the mercy of God, through their temporary fall, the riches of His grace has now come to the Gentiles, that we might understand the law of the Lord and respond to His abundant mercy.