Youth Conference
Dear Bro. Don,
Where are all our young people? How many young Christadelphians, over the age of 16, baptized or not, are thre in Southern Ontario and Michigan?
According to the list of those registered for this year’s Manitoulin Youth Conference there are exactly 24 such young people; that’s less than two per ecclesia!
If this is not alarming and distressing to us all, it should be. The Youth Conference is a concept designed by young people for young people. It provides an opportunity for spiritual growth and development amongst the group that will become our future ecclesia. Why then this lack of response? This remains a mystery for those involved in the organization of the conference.
Many have said that they work in the summer and can’t get the time off. If they planned to have the last two weeks of summer off, one could be spent at Youth Conference, and the other getting ready for school. The thing is, if we wanted to go we could find a way!
Perhaps the workbook (designed to prepare us to be able to participate at conference) is too much work for our young people. Firstly, we can never spend too much time studying God’ sword. Secondly, the workbook represents about 12 hours of work a month for the next five months, or three hours per week. Is our commitment to the Truth so weak that we can’ t find three hours a week to study the scriptures?
Who is to blame for the almost total neglect of Youth Conference?
The young people themselves must shoulder most of the blame. As young people, we must put God first in our lives and seek out all opportunities to grow in His sight. If we do, He has promised to provide for us the necessities of life.
To the 24 young people who are registered, please spread the word about conference, stir up some more interest in your own area — you are the ones who know what a great experience Youth Conference can be. To those not yet registered, do it soon while there’s still time to get properly prepared.
Are the parents and older brethren and sisters exempt from blame for this tragedy? By no means! Our young people need to be guided and encouraged as much as possible. If you don’t know anything about Youth Conference — then find out what it’s all about. If you don’t know if your children are registered — then find out. Find out if your CYC has included a study of Genesis 1-4 this year in preparation for conference.
If we care about the future of our community, then we will all take more interest in Youth Conference and find out how we can get involved.
Your brother in Christ,
Chris Sales, Shelburne, ONT
Having helped out at two of the three youth conferences and planning to go again this year, we can add our personal observation that it is an excellent opportunity for in-depth Bible study and for enjoyable fellowship in the Truth. We were very impressed with the spiritual growth that occurred among the young people as they took a careful look at a narrow section of scripture. The Bible is like a globe in that going deep at any one point leads one to the very heart of the divine message. Continued surface study does not provide this same benefit.
Furthermore, listening to someone else’s address or reading someone else’s material is helpful but cannot compare to the benefits derived from one’s own personal study. The young people are missing an excellent opportunity for spiritual growth if they miss these youth conferences without good reason.
While those organizing the activity may be discouraged, we would urge them to carry on the work if they feel it is worthwhile. If only 24 attend, then take heart from the benefit they experience and do not be overly concerned at the smaller group. In fact, sometimes more real good comes out of a small group than can be achieved when large numbers are present.
The dominant reason for the low registration may well be spiritual apathy. Our society is so oriented to trivial pleasures that even the saints are easily distracted into useless pursuits. There are probably other factors involved as well. Some might like to attend but find the camping environment too uncomfortable for a study week. It is easy to say we are soft and should put up with anything for the sake of the Word. But not everyone is the same and we need to consider what is essential and what is optional. There is nothing particularly virtuous about deliberately being uncomfortable. Another factor is that some young brethren have been stimulated to greater ecclesial involvement by the youth conference and now do not have the time for the workbook study. They are doing Bible study but it is in preparation for other obligations they have undertaken. Another factor is that not everyone who would be inclined to come may be interested in spending the necessary time on the particular topic selected.
One of the good aspects of past conferences is that everyone was there because they wanted to be; not because they felt it an obligation. Let’s try and maintain that spirit. Lord willing, we will have a spiritually vigorous, enjoyable time this year with however many attend.
Disfellowship, an act of love
Dear Bro. Don,
I wish to thank you for your responsible editorship of the Tidings and especially your timely remarks. I feel you have brought a strong and valuable direction to the brotherhood in America at a time of great difficulty especially in light of the marriage/divorce and reunion issues.
My comments are directed, however, to the article in the February, 1990 issue titled “An Act of Love” by Bro. Jim Dillingham. I hope his article will become recommended reading of arranging brethren before an action of withdrawal is taken. You mentioned at one of our Bible schools that your ecclesia decided “as a group” on cases of withdrawal rather than just the arranging board members? Perhaps you could explain more fully.
I was very much grieved (still am) although I’m not a relation to the sister who submitted an apology and an acknowledgement of her sin to my ecclesia but was withdrawn from because 1) it was the “first they had heard of her sin,” 2)she had not been attending for a year (because of her shame and pregnant condition) and 3) because they questioned her “sincerity” as was declared at the ecclesial business meeting six months later. These responses, I believe, are not in keeping with scriptural injunction or with the recommended procedures in the ” ‘Ecclesial Guide” by Bro. Robert Roberts. I feel your comments on pg. 52 (Feb. ’90) are appropriate here: “Disfellowship is a very serious matter. If we formally (or informally) separate ourselves from someone who really is a servant of Christ (i.e. one who has acknowledged sin and repented) we jeopardize our own salvation. Separated from the other person, it is very unlikely we will even know when they are spiritually or physically hungry, thirsty, naked, or sick, let alone be in a position to minister to their needs.”
This has been the case — the sister didn’t qualify for welfare from the state, no assistance from the ecclesia was extended, nor was encouragement as she has no family in the Truth. I listened to her sobs and helped where I could and even wrote to the arranging board. My letter was ignored (no reply to me) and only one arranging brother discussed it with me.
She has submitted another request for re-in-statement, but it has been five months and she hasn’t attended regularly so this “little lamb” is bleating and injured outside the sheepfold and the shepherds have “closed” the door.
Your comment is very moving -”If we thereby deliberately refuse to help one who is Christ’s, we are refusing to help Christ.” (Matt. 25 :41- 46).
Couldn’t some kind of arranging board manual be written, with scriptural passages regarding certain problems, articles like the one mentioned included so that responsible leadership will be taken. Then arranging board members could read it, pray about it and come to a better decision.
Yours sincerely in Christ,
Name withheld by request
P.S. As a spiritual mother to this sister, I counseled her to approach the ecclesia before they knew of the situation since the fact of her sin came to my attention first.
There is some material already extant that arranging brethren would do well to consider. In addition to the “Ecclesial Guide” (which we suspect not all arranging brethren have read), the Christadelphian office has published a pamphlet “Taking Heed to All the Flock” and Bro. Harry Tennant has given seminars on ecclesial elder ship, tapes of which are, no doubt, available.
Our own comments at a Bible school probably were more along the line that we recommend arranging boards involve non-board members in seeking to recover brethren and sisters before disfellowshiping anyone. In most cases, the process of disfellowship should be of sufficient length that the ecclesia has an opportunity to alter the board’s direction at a business meeting. In many ecclesias, it would be unworkable and perhaps unwise to have the ecclesia decide as a group on such issues.
Not being privy to all the details, we cannot comment on the specific case. However, a few general observations may be useful.
Repentance is more than just acknowledging our sin and saying we are sorry we did it. True repentance brings forth fruit worthy of repentance. The difficult decision for arranging brethren is in judging whether such fruits of a change of heart are really evident.
In Christ, we are all one family. While it is a great blessing to have members of our natural family in the Truth, we need to keep on exhorting ourselves to treat all the ecclesial members as family. The fact a person does not have natural family in the Truth should not inhibit their access to loving encouragement.
We have an individual responsibility to others in Christ that cannot be passed off on the arranging brethren. We were pleased to note your personal involvement. In many cases, people criticize others for not doing things yet fail to get involved themselves.
The most disturbing comment in your letter is that the brethren were unaware of the sister’s situation for a year. Every ecclesia should have some mechanism to ensure this does not happen. One large ecclesia recognized the problem and established a “mini-flock” procedure. Each arranging brother was assigned 12 ecclesial members for whom they were particularly responsible. If any of their 12 missed one memorial service, it was the brother’s responsibility to, in a loving, caring manner, determine the reason. In small ecclesias, an informal procedure may work fine but even in these, attendance should be taken and somebody should be aware of the reason for absentees.
Premarital guide
Dear Bro. Don:
Greetings in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The section on Family Life in the Lord is helpful and I believe is serving a useful purpose in the brotherhood. You mentioned in one of your magazines that a guide for premarital instruction is being worked on. I think that is certainly needed in the brotherhood and look forward to hearing of its completion.
Your brother in Christ,
Theo Readman, Pickardville, ALB
Your comment is representative of many we have received and will hopefully encourage those working on the material for premarital instruction. In the meantime, we welcome articles on this matter for inclusion in the family life section.
Exhibiting a right spirit
Dear Don:
“To debate the complex in defense of the Truth while disobeying the simple is confusion.”
It was good to see the loving spirit of Christ manifested in the recent exchange between Bro. Tom Graham and yourself in the editorial pages regarding the marriage/ divorce articles. As a community dedicated to the truth, we should encourage open discussion.
We may have great difficulty and controversy in understanding and applying all the scriptural teaching regarding marriage and divorce, but the loving spirit of Christ is simple to understand and beyond controversy. The doctrine of love requires comparatively little in the way of study, and is seldom enhanced by eloquence. Anything done in His name should be done in His spirit, or left to others. (And this applies to me as well.)
Love in Christ,
Ken Sommerville, Northridge, CA
The exchange between Bro. Graham and ourselves was perhaps a good example of what frequently happens in ecclesial life. Differences between brethren are magnified by our inability to properly express our thoughts particularly when trying to express the full scope of divine thinking. We have noted very few occasions when brethren united in the one truth, faced with the same facts have not eventually reached agreement on appropriate action. The process may take much patient listening to what the other person is really saying. It may also require some confidence in the other brother’s sincerity. That usually is justified as most of us are sincerely trying to follow our Lord although we many times stumble in the process.
Some topics to consider
Dear Bro. Don:
I think the February, 1990 issue of the Tidings just about covered the subject of “remarriage after divorce — the Christadelphian position pro and con.” It would be beneficial to all concerned to move on to some other problem which is besetting our nation. Here is a sample:
What is the Christadelphian view about co-habiting without marriage so common these days? (When I was young, it was a “no-no” but it would be wise to publish the truth about God’s view on the current situation.)
What about deviate sex? The Bible has a long list of commands about abstaining therefrom. In view of the “gay” rights and current “gay” ministers in some churches, an article explaining why Christadelphians don’t (or shouldn’t) indulge would be appropriate.
What is the current Christadelphian view about members taking part in outer-space flights? Or is there any view on that subject?
Is the current computerization of the stock market gambling? Should Christadelphians get involved with junk bonds and leveraged buy-outs? If not, why not?
How about crack cocaine? When I was young, many years ago (I’m past 83), there were discussions about Christadelphians smoking tobacco. How about taking the popular drugs?
What is the Christadelphian view on the right of choice as to abortions?
I enjoy the letters by you and Ellen giving advice to young marrieds. Also Bro. Lloyd’s articles are a must. Keep on keeping on. Remember — it was about 2000 years from 4004 B.C.E. (date of Adam and Eve in the garden) to the death of Peleg (in whose time the world was divided) around the time of the migration of Terah’ s family to Haran. It was another 2,000 years to the birth of Jesus. And in another 10 years we will come to 2000 C.E. (current era) which will be from 2007 to 2004 years after the birth of Jesus. Let us all diligently labor to be found doing our Heavenly Father’s will when Jesus returns.
Your sister in Christ,
Margaret Cooper Knorr, Largo, FL
As you will note, we have heeded your advice and included an article on the “gay” issue this month. Other items on your list will be considered in future issues, Lord willing.
We would be very interested in receiving input from those who have specialized knowledge on the economic and drug issues you have raised. For example, “junk” bonds is a catchy name given to a great range of bonds bearing relatively high interest rates reflecting a greater risk of default. They do not strike us as gambling any more than putting savings in many other forms of investment. But maybe if we knew more about them, our opinion would be different. In like manner, the drug problem really goes much further than the youngsters experimenting with crack, heroin or LSD. Many people are pill-poppers, over-reliant on medication to get through life. Perhaps some of the doctors among us could help in applying Biblical principles to this matter.
The divorce and remarriage issue will keep coming up. We do not plan to repeat such an extensive presentation of the pros and cons as was done in the February issue. We plan, however, to print letters on the subject (we have several now that we are waiting the space to include) and we will continue emphasizing the divine desire for one man, one woman, for life. As Bro. Lloyd points out this month, our humanity demands that we keep repeating right points.
About divorce
Dear Bro. Don:
I see you have received many letters concerning the marriage, divorce and remarriage problem. I fully agree with your first editorial on the problem — that there is a lack of information of details of circumstances that we desire in dealing with our brothers and sisters whose lives have become entangled in marriage difficulties.
Any way we go there is an “exception” of some kind for some thing. The “exceptive clause” is not in italics in the KJV. Some, looking at the word “fornication,” have applied the “exception” to sex before marriage; but that is a lesser sin and more pardonable than the same identical sin after marriage which is a major crime that adulterates a marriage and destroys the marriage vow. To place the relief coming from the “exception” on the lesser sin rather than the major crime is surely not the application intended by divine wisdom.
I have nothing in my personal life to prejudice my views on the subject.
All students agree that there is one right way to go and I have often thought that maybe the dearth of information on details is a divinely intended test to see which way we would go — the right way, or lean against the law as far as possible. Of course, many are entangled in the problems of marriage against their will.
We should have patience with arranging brethren who have to make decisions on the complicated problem of divorce and remarriage. Arranging brethren are often young and not too wise, and I have also discovered that age has no monopoly on wisdom, or even common sense. Your brother in Christ, Aude Plew, Bloomington, IN
Thank you for your thoughts based on so many years of ecclesial experience. You have clearly picked up the thrust of our initial comments on the matter of divorce and remarriage. We have been criticized for not taking a more definitive position. The right course is clear — once married, make it work and stay married. We continue to include material urging this course and offering suggestions on how to make marriages work.
The problems and uncertainties enter when sin takes over and wrecks a marriage. Then what? Then we have to exercise wisdom, prayer, mercy, firmness and character in the specific instance, considering the details and ramifications of each case individually. Certainly we would like a rule book of definitive answers. As Bro. Plew notes, the very absence of such specifics tries our faith and, in many circumstances, reveals the quality of our discipleship.