Divorce

The following letters are repre­sentative of a number that have been received on this subject.

Dear Brother Don,

You are to be commended for your excellent article on divorce. It was a well-balanced and reasonable presentation of the subject. Unfortunately, in some quarters, it is treated with the same fanaticism expressed by the Pharisees regarding the Sab­bath issue in Christ’s day. I am hopeful that your lucid treatment of the subject will put to rest some of the extreme views that pop up from time to time.

Your brother in our one hope,
Charles DiLiberto,
Largo, FL

Dear Brother Don,

I have read your editorial on divorce and it appears that you have done considerable thinking on this subject. Regarding your comments on my letter on divorce, I have a few comments on your comments.

My own conclusion of my letter is that the original marriage union should not be resumed. It may have appeared that an official divorce was required and not optional; however, it was not my intention to carry it past the optional stage.

You stated that two people becoming “one flesh” is figurative language and to prove your point you quote a section of the Mosaic law. I question the validity of using this law to prove your point, a law which was decaying and waxing old and ready to vanish away.

The one flesh relationship, as the basis of marriage, was arranged in the beginning before sin entered the world. Thus, Jesus went back to Gods ideal of one man and one woman as the basis of marriage for his followers. It is only under this condition that the one flesh relationship can attain its true meaning. This accentuates the seriousness of putting asunder (splitting) this relationship.

After the introduction of sin’s flesh, men were permitted to have more than one wife but not to have the wife of another. The multiplicity of wives resulted in friction in the household because it departed from God’s ideal for marriage.

The proof that this one flesh relationship is literal (physical) is in I Cor. 6:15-16. “Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I therefore take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that he who joins himself to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, ‘The two shall become one flesh.’ “(RSV) Jude has a comment about flesh. The fornication which those of Sodom and Gomorrah committed was called going after strange flesh, a physical relation­ship.

Regarding your editorial on divorce, I would like to suggest an explanation for Luke 16:18. Verse 16 states that the law and the prophets were until John. Since that time, the kingdom of God is preached. This indicates the law was finished. Yet verse 17 reads “it is easier for heaven and earth to pass than for one tittle of the law to fail.” To show that the law had failed and so heaven and earth (the Jewish state) would pass away, Jesus reveals that “whosoever put­teth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.” (v.18) This ordinance nullifies the divorce bill in Deuteronomy 24 and so establishes the fact that heaven and earth (Jewish state) is to pass away. Jesus had already given his ruling on divorce (one cause) and is here eliminating the divorce bill with its many excuses for putting away a wife.

You thanked me for the courage to state my views on divorce. I thank you for the much greater courage to print what! had written.

With brotherly love,
Harry Perks, Stayner, ONT

Thank you for the clarification of your previous letter and for your interesting comments on Luke 16. Thank you, as well, for your gracious closing comment. In our experience, no great courage is required to discuss Bible problems within the Christadel­phian community. Generally speaking, we are reasonable people who become agitated only when someone persistently distorts clear Bible teaching. What often appears to be hostility among us is little more than frustration at our inability to verbalize properly the concepts we can sense with our hearts but have trouble putting into words.

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings in our one hope.

My first introduction to the problem of divorce and remarriage within the household goes back some 44 years. In the ecclesia in which I was baptized, there was a well respected, happily married couple. They were a brother and sister, both of whom had previously been divorced from other partners. Their presence did not split the ecclesia but did cause troubled minds to many and certainly to myself I had been instructed by a sincere brother who, on scriptural grounds, to this day would be called antagonistic to any who have been divorced and remarried. He would be labelled a “hardliner.” Perhaps that is why I have been inclined to sit on the fence. I have observed over the years that both pros and cons in this divorce and remarriage problem seem to have some justification from scripture for the view they take. Yet is seems inconsistent for the Almighty, whose judgments are right, to leave His children without the clear sound of a trumpet or a guiding light to follow in the darkness of worldly confusion and of human emotions.

One can understand the position of those who stand by one tenet. They regard as paramount only those pas­sages of scripture we all know so well (Gen. 1:27; 2:23,24; Mark 10:6-9 ,11,12 rejecting Matt. 19:9 as not applicable; Lev. 20:10; 1 Cor. 6:9-10 ; Eph. 5:29-32; Rom. 7:2,3; Luke 16:18 etc.) and conclude any who divorce and remarry must be disfellowshipped. To those in Christ’s day, it would have been easy to cast stones at the woman taken in adultery. Today, it is also easy to say to the offender:

“In view of your unChristlike behavior, having transgressed the commandments of God in committing adultery and continuing in sin by having more than one partner, we regret we have to withdraw fellowship from you” and bar one from the Lord’s table and perhaps all ecclesial activities. It is easier to do that than to understand the circumstances, the anguish, the loneliness, the dependence on a caring partner which led to remarriage. Indeed, were we not blessed with a relatively compatible partner, perhaps we, too, would succumb.

Examining the guidelines of scripture, one can be drawn into a conflict of wills in considering divorce and remarriage and fail to address the eternal matters involved. Can we demand that another must follow the course which our own alleged understanding of scripture would dictate?

When all is said and done and the combined wisdom of an ecclesia has been applied, there is still a relation­ship between those involved and the Lord their God who made them male and female. Really, what counts is whether a person falls into the likeness of Psa. 36:1-4, the deliberate, calculated sinner, or that of Psa. 38:1-4, the believer who has sinned and repents with true contrition. We may judge but there is a great Judge of all from whom nothing is hidden. Surely God is not looking for the human weaknesses in each individ­ual but for the heart that is humble and contrite and that trembles at His word.

Stepping out of the waters of baptism does not make us less prone to sin. It does assure us of the grace of God. Raised from the water, we are freed from our sins and our feet are committed to the straight and narrow path to life. Yet, unlike our supreme example, we are still pitiable sinners. In spite of our continual waywardness, the mind of a godly man manifests the humble and contrite heart that trembles at God’s word and rejoices in the mercies of the Almighty who fully knows our thoughts and intents (Rom. 8:27; 1 Thess. 2:4; Heb. 4:12,13; Acts 1:24; I Sam. 16:7 ; I Kgs. 8 :39 ; 1 Chr. 28:9).

Conversely, repeated examples confront us in the household which reflect the mindset of a hardened sinner. One of my associates in the brotherhood was a young brother raised up in the fear and admonition of the Lord. He became a shining light. He was loved, enjoyed and looked up to by his peers and by younger babes in the faith. His elders admired his grasp of scripture and his spirited exhortations. At the same time, he progressed to high position in his employment, reflecting his diligence. That position required extra business activity — dinners, social functions, dancing, club life , etc. He took to the activities like a fish to water and made a complete turnabout from the path of life. Withdrawing from fellowship in Christ, committing adultery, leaving his wife and family home to live with other women, his Creator was no longer in his thoughts. His denial of the Father and Son and the gospel, his unbelief and arrogance, all made it clear to his ecclesia the only right course lay in following Matt. 18:15-17: “Let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.” Finally, he sought divorce from his faithful wife, married another and to this point has not turned from the way of the world.

The different attitudes of these divorced and remarried men stand out clearly. In my first ecclesia the remarried brother was aware of his imperfections and less-than-ideal marital situation but felt the compelling need to appear at the Lord’s table. He was hopeful of the Father’s mercy and devoted his life to service in the gospel. In contrast, there is the attitude of the wayward man who rejected the faith and, unrepentant, turned to the world.

“Let not man put asunder.” If a man does put his wife asunder in spite of her appeals and those of his brethren, is not his wife put asunder? Yes, surely, and before God and man she no longer has a husband. As a willfully sinning husband, he has broken the bonds of marriage; he has sundered that unity. God had joined them together as one flesh, but the man has broken the bond of unity; he is no longer her husband. They are no longer one flesh. She is no longer bound to the sinning husband. Such is our understanding of the position of the divorced sister and it permits her to remarry.

If a divorced believer remarries a believing partner instead of turning to the world and consistently attends all ecclesial functions, surely this is indicative of a good attitude. The new union is based on a mutual love and adherence to the Truth. Together, they present themselves at the table of the Lord, confessing their sins, pleading forgiveness through the blood of Jesus. Where else can they go? For what purpose is that table provided? Is it not provided for those who need a physician?

If any are sufficiently repentant, surely the Lord’s table is the place where we should encourage them to be. We advocate this, assuming they come in sincerity and not to flaunt their situation before others. We should be like minded with David who, though a sinner, was a man after God’s own heart. Sometimes we wonder who of us today would welcome king David to attend “our” ecclesial table.

There has been and presumably always will be a problem with divorce and remarriage. From I Tim. 3 :1-13 , this very situation evidently presented a problem in the early ecclesia. If some did not have more than one wife, the stipulation of verses 2 and 12 would never have been given. The plurality may have resulted from divorce and remarriage or by the coexistence of more than one wife. In either case, it would appear that such an undesirable situation required careful selection of overseers in carrying out ecclesial affairs.

It would seem that such a principle could be used to double advantage in the brotherhood today and would help to bring some measure of order and peace to troubled eccle­sias or individual members. First, the tendency to become divorced/remarried would be curbed in those who seek equal standing in the eccle­sia. Second, it would emphasize the error of that situation to all while not preventing the sincere in heart, if weak in the flesh, from acknowledging their unworthiness. If some might feel unjustly victimized, they might consider I Peter 2:20. Inevitably, there would be shades of grey.

Regrettably, some divorced and remarried among us do not appear to have any humility and even exhibit arrogance. Others, in order to save an ecclesia from trouble, withdraw themselves from fellowship and continue to attend because that is where they want to be.

In the final analysis, adultery will be forgiven certain ones who, in spite of their error, have a right spirit. “For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.” (Psa. 51:3) We might all ask our­selves the question: “If sinners are not to attend the table of remembrance, why am I in fellowship?” If we are honest with ourselves, we ‘could, like the publican, go to our house justified.

Dear brother, I don’t purpose to have all the answers but maybe you will find something worthwhile in my observations. I do know that much of what I have written is in the minds of many. Perhaps I write because I fear that my own attitude could become harsh and unyielding when mercy and understanding is required in ecclesial decisions that have to be made.

Sincerely your brother in Christ,
Don Jenkinson, Nanaimo, B .C.

While the foregoing is a lengthy letter, we feel it contains some useful reflections from scripture and experience. The idea of restricted activities suggests a practice that has been successfully implemented by some ecclesias.

Dear Bro. Don,

Loving greetings in Christ.

Your conclusions are very wisely stated: a) “each case must be examined on the basis of its own circum­stances with individual decisions made by a prayerful application of godly principles.” In hundreds of hours of study over 10 years, our arranging board came to the same conclusion; b) “We are thus forced to consider specific situations in the light of prin­ciples and not a rule book:” and c) “…we are talking about ecclesial decisions made after careful deliberation with ecclesial elders playing the key roles and time for advice to be asked of others familiar with the case.”

May I respectfully suggest that this last quoted principle contradicts your own conclusion: that an eccle­sia should not “workout guidelines before personal feelings become involved and emotions start running high.” Anyone who has had to deal with the position of divorced and remarried members without the ec­clesia having previously established some guidelines based on scriptural principles will agree that it is far too late to do this when confronted with a current problem. As in all ecclesial problems, should we not first be clear on the principle before we have to deal with the application of the principle? This can be done only through long and patient study of the pas­sages you and your correspondent have touched upon, plus, perhaps, some others. Guidelines are just that: they are not hard and fast rules.

May I take the space to correct one error in exposition in your editorial? In 1 Cor. 7, you link v. 15 with vs. 27 and 28 to conclude “the believer is free of marital obligations, if their unbelieving partner leaves them: ‘if thou many, thou hast not sinned’.” The last quote is from verse 28. Paul’s letter, as we see it in chapter 7, is divided into sections; verses 25-28 begin: “Now concerning virgins:” that is, preciously unmarried (engaged) couples. Paul is addressing male “virgins” who were engaged or under Hebrew law bound to a wife (cp. Joseph and Mary).

The first occurrence of “loosed” in v.27 is the Greek LUSIS (the only occurrence in scripture) meaning a loosening from any tie or constraint. The second occurrence of “loosed” in this verse is the Greek LUO “to release or free ;” it is used 43 times in the New Testament and never of divorce (see postscript). Paul is urging those males who are engaged to follow through with their commitment; but if they don’t, it is not a sin (v.28). So the phrase from v.28, “if thou marry, thou hast not sinned,” has no bearing whatsoever on the phrase “not under bondage” in v.I5.

Very briefly: “bondage” is the Greek Douloos from Douloos, a slave: to be made subject to someone, with no limitations in kind or time of service. This word Douloos is never used of divorce in the New Testa­ment. It is my understanding of Cor. 7 that nowhere in this chapter does the apostle Paul countenance divorce.

We found in our studies over the years we inevitably came back to the foundation question: what is a marriage? Or, if you like, what is a marriage in God’s sight? Until that question is settled, all further study is unprofitable and probably will end up in a deadlock.

Sincerely, your brother in Christ,
H.D. Bartholomew

P.S. Strong’ s Concordance has an error in the reference to “loosed” in I Cor. 7:27. The reference numbers are reversed. They should be 3080 first and 3089 second (cf. Young’s Concordance).

Bro. Bart’s comments are very useful and we feel his understanding of I Cor. 7:27-28 is correct. Incidentally, his criticism of Strong’s Concordance is accurate and underscores a point we should all recognize: concordances are not infallible (we sometimes quote them as if they are).

The criticism of our use of the word “guidelines” is accepted. We had intended it as a synonym for “hard and fast rules.” If there should be occasion to reprint the editorial, we need to find a substitute word that more accurately conveys our meaning.

Dear Bro. Don,

Greetings in the one hope!

I was quite disappointed in the last editorial concerning divorce for several reasons.

First of all, I was disappointed that you would state that scripture gives us no hard and fast rules about divorce and remarriage. By making such a statement, one is saying they have scripture all figured out correctly on the matter and there is no clear answer. Therefore, putting such in print, the majority of the North American ecclesias will follow the Tidings’ lead and will feel that the door is wide open for individual interpretation on this matter. I feel that this is quite dangerous. My heart goes out to the small ecclesias that do not have the experience and scriptural background to do other than wholeheartedly take the advice of the Tidings magazine on such issues. Perhaps the better way to deal with such a matter is to leave it alone unless one feels that they do have clear scripture to back up their position.

Secondly, I was disappointed in the discussion. For such an important issue, I found the logic and reasoning very shallow. We must remember that we are talking about the salvation of our brethren and sisters in these cases. We all have a tremendous responsibility to guide them in the way to life eternal.

Often, we conclude that scripture is unclear on a matter only if we look for ways to please the flesh. If we wish to make this life comfortable and pleasant in all ways, then the ways of God are going to be difficult and unclear. This is the danger that arises when we use man’s logic. If the simple teaching on this issue were read and adhered to, perhaps the confusion and uncertainty would disappear. Mark 10:11 reads: “Whosoever shall put away his wife, and be married to another, commit­teth adultery against her.” This is, of course, the divine ideal as all would admit. We must remember that even though none can attain unto the divine ideal, failure to attain unto that ideal is sin! All sin must be repented of and laid on the mercy and forgiveness of Yahweh. Scripture gives us no license to be comfortable with anything less than the ideal.

For the sake of brevity, we will only deal with the section in your editorial entitled “A continuing state?”

I doubt that there really can be a “state” of adultery. The definition of adultery is having an illicit relationship with someone other than your spouse. Surely, each time the act is committed it is adultery and none are in a “continuing state” of adultery. The question here is who is your spouse, since, by definition, it is impossible for anyone to commit adultery with their spouse. All would agree that relationships outside of marriage are adulterous. So, once we determine who our husband or who our wife is, we have the problem solved.

The scriptures of truth clearly tell us! In the verse quoted above, God clearly informs us that this second “marriage” has not provided the man with a new wife. This is obvious, because he is guilty of committing adultery with her! It is, as mentioned before, impossible to commit adultery with your wife.

The position put forth in the Tidings editorial is telling us that someday down the road, the woman does finally become his wife. The question must be asked, “If she was not his wife after their wedding and after the consummation of that wedding, then just when, in God’s sight, does she become his wife?” Clearly, God does not recognize this divorce. He considers the first marriage as binding and the one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her! If indeed the man has put her away, and if God, who hates putting away, does in fact recognize this dissolution of the marriage, then the man cannot commit adultery against her! Marriage, as constituted by our heavenly father is for life; “What God hath joined together, let not man put asunder,” regardless of the consequences.

In considering marriages prior to baptism, we would all agree that knowledge is the basis of responsibility. Certainly no one can be held accountable for things they are not aware of Prior to the knowledge of the divine ideal, responsibility cannot be fixed.

The editorial stated that, on the basis of the oath given to the Gibeonites, oaths made prior to bap­tism are as valid and binding as those made after baptism. The oath to the Gibeonites was made before Yahweh and was indeed binding. Today, those married prior to baptism rarely, if ever, make their vows before Yah­weh, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the father of the Lord Jesus Christ. Furthermore, if we were to teach someone the truth who Had previously sworn an oath to uphold the principles of the armed forces or the Masons, we would insist that these allegiances be abandoned as one started his walk to the kingdom of God. Certainly, oaths made prior to baptism must take a back seat to the commands of Yahweh.

We do not ask those married prior to baptism to repeat their vows made prior to “knowledge” as their marriage is sanctified by Yahweh once they put on the saving name of Christ. They are married in the eyes of the land; and, as they cohabit, this new brother and sister of Christ are declaring to the world and to Yahweh that they intend to continue their marriage under the principle of Christ as laid down in the word of God.

Hopefully, we have been able to show that the teachings of God are not unclear at all. Yahweh has told us that marriage is for life and that nothing less than fulfilling His ideal is acceptable in His sight. If the ideal is unattainable in a particular instance, then we are not at liberty to hope that God will accept that lesser position without an effort toward repentance on our part! Repentance requires a turning away from that sin and a sincere asking for forgiveness. If, when we ask for forgiveness, we know that we are not really going to try and repent of our sins, then there is no forgiveness. If there is no forgiveness, there is no salvation!

The salvation of our brethren and sisters is really what this discussion is all about isn’t it? These “reasoning’s together” are merely academic to those who are not divorced. We must not lose sight of the fact that our brothers’ and sisters’ salvation may depend on our “rightly dividing” the word of truth. Once we stray from the divine ideal in any area, whether it be in marriage, in suffering ourselves to be defrauded or in doing all to the glory of God, we are treading on very dangerous, if not fatal, ground. God has uttered these commands and it is our responsibility to adhere to them the best we possibly can and not look for rationalizations when we stray from the ideal. Surely, everyone’s salvation is on more solid ground by continually exhorting each other that anything less than a constant striving for the ideal is not acceptable in God’s sight.

Your brother in Christ our Lord,
Tom Graham

We make a serious mistake on this issue when we infer brethren who disagree with us are callous and unfeeling or that they are trying to please the flesh. In our experience, earnest brethren have honestly studied out this matter and have come to different conclusions. If we start imputing wrong motives where there may be none, we are asking for trouble when Christ judges us.

The weakness in relying on hard and fast technicalities is evident in the foregoing letter. While space does not allow extended comment this month, the critical weakness in the letter is the approach taken to those who divorced and remarried before learning the Truth. The letter takes the position that upon baptism such couples should not be asked to separate or refrain from normal marital relationships.

The conclusion is fine but the reasoning behind it is faulty. The above letter says, in effect, that marriages before knowledge of the Truth are not reckoned as real marriages and adultery is not regarded as real adultery. There is absolutely no Bible basis for such a stand. Before coming to the Truth, people were regarded by God as “fornicators …adulterers …thieves…revilers…etc.” (I Cor. 6:9-10). Those who are in darkness, ignorance and blindness of heart are still reckoned by God to be practicing lasciviousness, uncleanness, whoredoms, etc. and for these things are subject to His wrath (Eph. 4:18,19; 5:5,6). Sins done in ignorance are more susceptible of forgiveness than those done with knowledge but they are still sins.

Furthermore, “marrying and giving in marriage” (Matt. 24:38) is a condition in the world at large. Herod “married” his brother’s wife (Mk. 6:17). There is no difference in Bible vocabulary between what is done by ignorant Gentiles and what is done by the saints of God.

The distinctions drawn in the foregoing letter are not scriptural. They are employed only because an erroneous premise has been assumed: the erroneous premise being that the marriage bond is unbreakable. On that premise, the letter argues that divorces are a figment of man’s imagination and are not recognized by God; a man leaving his wife for another woman is still married to the first and thus commits adultery every time he has sexual relations with his second woman.

With such an idea, what do we do about people who are divorced and remarried before coming to the Truth? The letter takes the position that their first marriage was not a real marriage; they are not really married to anyone until they have a knowledge of the Truth. That position has no Bible basis as we have just demonstrated.

There are only two alternatives left 1) divorced and remarried people are living in adultery and cannot be baptized until they separate. This is a wrong conclusion as indicated by New Testament practice, 2) the marriage bond is breakable and, in this situation, God recognizes the second marriage as a marriage.

Does this mean that people in the Truth can divorce and remarry and have God sanctify their new union? By no means! Those in the Truth who divorce and remarry commit calculated, deliberate sin. How can they ever claim true repentance before God when they are living happily in their situation that resulted from willful sin? Some may say they know of an instance of true repentance. Perhaps that is theoretically possible but it is very difficult to imagine it.

Every case needs to be considered in the light of Biblical prin­ciples. If we start appealing to technicalities instead of principles, we end up in some pretty unusual positions such as saying nobody is married and nobody commits adultery except those who know the Truth.

A sister’s good advice Dear loved ones in Christ,

Grace, mercy and peace be unto you in Yahweh’s most holy name!

Many years ago, our beloved Bro. Winzerling gave me a few booklets written in German. Somehow, I gave them all away but one. After hearing of your trip to Germany, I decided to send the last one to you. Maybe you can give me an idea what topics it covers.

I have not seen your family for so long that they must be all grown up. I knew the one who was in El Salva­dor.

Today the young ones seem to grow up overnight. Yet I feel they need at all times the love and guidance of their parents.

When they get ready for college, make sure they are sent to one near home. This way they move back and forth not too far away from their family life. Somehow, when they do go away to school, they don’t seem to come back.

Today, the young ones in school must go through quite a bit of hard­ship. That is why it is so important to instill the love of God and His word in them at an early age.

The Catholics say, give them a child from two to seven and after that you can have him and he’ll stay Catho­lic in his heart.

With a knowledge of God’s holy word, surely we should see even more clearly the importance of early train­ing.

Let us parents pray daily for our young ones everywhere in the household of faith.

Bro. Scott joins me in sending kindest regards.

Sis. Edna Scott, Virginia

Thanks very much for your letter. It was good to hear from you. The pamphlet in German is a summary of the first principles of the Truth. The various topics covered are: God’s plan with the earth, including the promises to Abraham and various facts about the kingdom; the entrance of sin and death into the world and the fact that we are all mortal. It also discusses the return of Christ, including the doctrines of resurrec­tion and judgment; the reward of the righteous as co-rulers with Christ; the truth regarding the oneness of God and the right teaching regarding Jesus Christ as the Son of God; the fact that salvation is through faith in Christ upon our being baptized into the covenants of promise and the necessity of a faithful walk in Christ.

While our knowledge of German is minute, we could follow the development of the points by the Bible verses being quoted. We have found this to be the case whenever Chris­tadelphians meet. We might not know the language, but if we know the general topic and the Bible passages used, we can follow the brother’s development of a point. This is a testimony to the fellowship of our faith and to the copious use we make of the word of God.

Thank you for your input on the vital topic of parental influence on their children. We have just returned from a tour of ecclesias where all too often we heard the lament, “sadly, only one of our children is in the meeting.” We feel this is a tragedy that should and can be avoided.

It is normal for children to model themselves after their parents. The basis of all the cultures that ever existed is that children tend strongly to perpetuate the standards, habits, interests and customs which are dear to their forebears. If our children are raised in a Christadelphian culture, in most cases they will accept it as their manner of life. No doubt some children are rebellious and some of our children will chafe at the standards of the Truth because they are antithetical to human nature. But off-setting this disadvantage is the advantage that we have the Truth. When our children examine the validity of our beliefs, they will find them to be true.

Becoming a Christadelphian does not guarantee eternal life and there may be some in the brotherhood who will not be in the kingdom. But becoming a Christadelphian is certainly a good step in the right direction.

It has been our observation that, in some families and in some eccle­sias, almost all the children are bap­tized. In other cases, only a minority come into the Truth. We suspect the difference is largely due to attitudes entrenched in parents and elders rather than in any difference in the youth from one place to another.

Divorce

Dear Bro. Don:

Greetings in the One Hope.

Thank you for your editorial in the October issue of the “Tidings.” How wise were your words.

Here is an issue which has troubled the brotherhood almost from the inception of our community. Over the past century, it has caused divisions, big and small, and continues to do so even today.

If the community would give heed to your advice, it would go a long way toward putting this issue behind us so we could concentrate our meager resources in time and energy to more fruitful pursuits in pastoral and preaching work.

Thank you once again for your words and especially for having the courage to publish them.

Your brother in Christ,
John C. Bilello
Ann Arbor, MI

We appreciate Bro. Bilello’s comments. As noted in earlier issues of the magazine, we feel there is great need to devote ecclesial energy to strengthening marriages and maximizing the spiritual benefits that can come from godly family life. If more time and attention were devoted in such a direction, we are confident there would be far fewer cases of divorce in our midst.

Practical steps in this direction have been taken by articles in our various magazines and by a few books that have been published in our midst. Readers of this publication can assist by contributing material for the Family Life section.

Our own feeling is that we should have a manual available to assist in the teaching of classes for engaged couples and for those who wish to enhance the quality of their marriages. We know of some efforts in this direction and would be pleased to advertise their availability or to print excerpts from them.

Christadelphians called non-Christians

Dear Bro. Don:

As you can see from the attached, the North American Association of Christians in Social Work is considering charges that Christadelphians are not Christians. Of course, whatever conclusion they come to is irrelevant to the truth of the matter. But I would be interested in your reaction to the charges and in what you consider would be the most appropriate response to them.

Yours in Christ,
Don Ifill, Ypsilanti, MI

Following are a few of the comments regarding Christadelphians by those leveling the “non-christian” charge against us:

“The zeal with which they pursue their study is worthy of a better cause, and might well be emulated by those of us who, while perceiving their errors, give so little time to searching of the Scriptures…Christadelphianism denies the Scriptural doctrine of the Trinity…they deny His (Christ’s) eternal Sonship and deity, leaving us with a sinful Christ, who came under the beneficial operation of His own death.

“Christadelphianism denies the existence of a personal devil…(and) denies the doctrine of the eternal future punishment of the wicked…(and) emasculates the doctrine of the sub­stitutionary atonement of Christ.”

Bro. Ifill’s letter expresses a situation that is at once gratifying and annoying. We are not the harlot church nor are we one of her daughters and it is gratifying that they recognize we are wholly distinct from them. Yet it is most annoying when we are vilified as being non-christian by the very ones who bear the name “Christian” so falsely.

In our experience, the Trinity is the focal point of most charges against us. Most of the time, we suspect the accusing party cannot verbalize the trinity doctrine he claims to believe. Furthermore, if he ever listened to the right explanation of God-manifestation, he would probably say he agreed with it. The normal problem we have encountered is that the person won’t keep quiet long enough to hear the Truth explained.

Has anyone found a quick, sharp reply in these circumstances which does not compromise the Truth but pointedly indicates we are the true Christians while the orthodox churches are not?

In the meantime, our direct response would be to invite our accuser publicly to debate the subject with the stipulation that only the Bible should be accepted as evidence on the matter.

After the Kingdom

Dear Bro. Don,
Shalom!

I was very interested in your answer to a correspondent who was concerned about the state of the king­dom after the 1,000 year reign of Christ. I

 believe the clue is to be found in the work of the angels. They have been very active in this present dispensation, ministering to those who will be the heirs of God’s salvation through Jesus Christ. But when Jesus returns, the work of the angels will be terminated (Heb. 2:5). For the 1,000 year period, the administration of the kingdom will be the responsibility of Jesus and the glorified saints.

Dare we assume that from that point of time, the angels will do nothing for the endless age of eternity? When I look up at the starry heavens on a clear night (especially in an area where their glory is not concealed by pollution), I find myself asking, ‘why are all these stars in heaven’s vast expanse?’ Then, on looking through a giant telescope, myriad more stars are clearly seen. There are thousands of galaxies, each one numbering trillions of stars. And now the astronomers tell us they have seen a new galaxy being formed. Why all these stars, most of which cannot be seen by the naked eye? Each star is like our sun and could have planets revolving around them. Does it not seem possible that when the work of the angels here is terminated, they may be sent to another part of God’s universe to start a new creation? And since we are to be made equal unto the angels, may it not be that at the end of the millennium, we, too, shall be involved in this never-ending task of filling the universe with God’s glory?

I doubt that any of us look forward to an eternal life of nothingness. Rather, we are filled with awe, praise, and thanksgiving that we are being prepared to be workers with God to all eternity.

With love in Jesus,
Gene Turner
Meriden, CN

Thank you for your contribution. While the angels may play some part during the Kingdom (I Cor. 6:3), eventually they will have completed their mission with the earth. From that point, your suggestions are certainly reasonable. There are, however, a couple of items which puzzle us and upon which some may wish to comment.

Why are we given so little information about after the kingdom? Since the promise of eternal life is so clear, one would think God would supply information as to what eternity would hold for those who believe His promises and commit their ways to Him.

Second, salvation is now made possible through God’s “only” begotten Son. Does this mean He has never used this method of salvation before? If another creation was started involving a probationary experience for its participants, would there be another Son provided in a similar manner? Does “only” have reference to this present order of things, allowing the possibility of a similar method being used in the past or in the future? Or could a different method of salvation be used which would be equally as effective as God’s present work through the Lord Jesus?

Tolerating the Noise of Children

Dear Editor,

Our Sunday school has decreased to a very small number and now is looking forward to a big boom as in recent years our ecclesia has been blessed with quite a few babies. We can easily have six each Sunday under the age of two and are expecting a few more within the next six months.

Our ecclesia has a semi-sound ­proof room for these kids. However, for some years, we have not experienced the noise the little ones can make. Many brethren and sisters are disturbed by the noise that is coming from the “baby room.” When there are six children in one room barely learning how to sit and don’t know what “shhh” means quite yet, I feel that the ecclesia should be more understanding. After all, the mothers of these children make an effort to come every Sunday and are hearing far less than the brethren and sisters who are being disturbed. Why should they come at all if they don’t have the support from their fellow members? We should be very thankful that God has blessed us with so many children. Can you think of any solution to this problem?

Concerned Sister

The solution is loving consideration on everyone’s part and some imaginative planning by the parents. If a child is crying and won’t stop, they should be taken out of hearing of the meeting. If they are shouting out in an undisciplined manner, they should be quickly taught not to do so.

By the time they are 12 months old, they can surely learn a little elementary self-control. Incidentally, sitting quietly helps prepare children for school and contributes to their ability to entertain themselves.

What is often helpful is to bring toys, books and eating treats to meeting that the child has not seen before or does not have available at home. This serves to distract them more than familiar items do and provides them with pleasant associations with the meeting place.

The older members need to be considerate of the mother’s efforts and should be thankful the meeting has potential for future growth. We have the ability to block out a lot of noise if we want to. We all exercise the ability at work or home in order to concentrate on necessary tasks. We should exercise the same ability during our services.

Grandmas and Aunts might consider helping one Sunday a month by handling the little one themselves during meeting. This would give mother a break and would enhance rapport with the child.

We have visited ecclesias where their love of silence has caused chil­dren to be kept away from the memorial service until they were teenagers. Those ecclesias consistently have a problem with many of their children never coming into the Truth. If the child is brought to the meeting right from the start, he develops attendance as a habit, and furthermore, views the ecclesia as his loving extended family. The older members should also view the little ones as their extended family and show them the same loving tolerance they exercise toward their own grandchildren at home.

Reporting Those Disfellowshipped

Brother Don:

I see from time to time in our magazines the names of a brother or sister who has been removed from fellowship, generally for “unbecoming conduct” or “long absence from the Lord’s table.” I doubt the wisdom of publishing the names of those who have gone astray to all ecclesias in North America, England and Australia who have no knowledge of the local situation. What possible good could come from that practice?

We would all be embarrassed to find our name published, far and wide, for a misconduct. It would irritate some, and in all cases it would erect a barrier in communication for correcting the problem in love and the spirit of Christ. Love “covereth a transgression” from the public eye so it may be corrected in kindness. (Prov. 17:9)

I would like to have your thoughts on this.

Your brother in Christ,
Aude Plew
Jasonville, IN

Since you are probably the senior active brother in North America, we certainly respect your advice on this matter. However, there are some positive aspects to printing names and reasons that need to be considered.

Many brethren and sisters have those in the community who are related to them or know them well but live thousands of miles away. This is particularly true now that long-distance travel is so readily available. In such cases, the distant person may not know of the spiritual trouble until they read the person’s name in one of the magazines. Knowing of the problem gives them an opportunity to make personal contact and perhaps help restore the disfellowshipped person to a right relationship with the Lord and the ecclesia. We know of one or two cases where this has happened.

Second, ecclesias can learn from one another how to handle different circumstances. The more we know what others are doing, the more opportunity we have to learn from them either by phone call, correspondence or conversation at a gathering or Bible school. Many are inexperienced in making ecclesial decisions and bene­fit greatly by such exchanges.

Presumably, any disfellowships that do occur result from a pattern of behavior and not from a single situation of misconduct. Accordingly, we are probably dealing with a person who has, hopefully temporarily, given themselves to the way of sin. In such a case, public reprimand may serve to jolt the person back to a right course and can serve as a warning to others who are headed in the same direction.

The Biblical precedents are divided with the offender’s name being concealed in I Cor. 5 but openly stated in I Tim. 1:20. Recording brethren, therefore, have a basis for exercising their judgment if they feel a name should be withheld. We would certainly honor such a request should it be made.

Divorce

Dear Brother Don,

After reading the letter from Sis. R.M. and your answer to her in the August issue of the “Christadelphian Tidings,” I feel constrained to write to you about my study on the subject of divorce and remarriage. This study began some 15 years ago and has continued at infrequent intervals since that time.

In Matt. 19, the Pharisees came to Jesus asking him if there was a lawful cause for putting away a wife. There was no doubt in the minds of the Pharisees that if a divorce could be obtained lawfully, then remarriage was a right. Jesus would be aware of this. Otherwise there would be no point to the question. In his answer, Jesus quoted Gen. 2:24 and made two comments. “For this cause shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh. So that they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” (Mt. 19:6-7 RV)

Note that in the italic type there is the common idea of joining together, while in the emphasized words Jesus is warning against putting asunder the one flesh relationship. To “put asunder” means “to split or break” while “to put away” means to “divorce.” Jesus is not warning against divorce in his reply to the Pharisees, but against destroying the one flesh relationship which is the foundation of marriage. Thus, when a partner to a marriage commits any sexual sin, the one flesh relationship is no longer in existence because the oneness has been destroyed.

This was the answer of Jesus to the Pharisees. They understood what he meant and Matthew records them bringing up the subject of the divorce bill. (v.7) They were told that the bill was written because of their hard hearts and when Jesus adds the clause “except it be for fornication,” he is only repeating what he has already told them by his reference to Genesis and his comments thereon.

There is also the spiritual lesson that divorce for fornication (unfaithfulness to the one flesh relationship) should teach us. Our marriages (one flesh) should reflect the union (one spirit) between Christ and his bride. If the spiritual union can be broken for unfaithfulness (Heb. 10:26), then surely the fleshly union can be broken for the same reason. The no-divorce teaching in spiritual language is “once in grace always in grace.” Thus, in considering the natural and the spiritual sides of this subject, it is not reasonable to assume that God would have double standards. That is, He would not expect His adopted sons and daughters to tolerate un­faithfulness in their marriages any more than He would expect His only begotten Son to tolerate unfaithfulness in any member of those who make up his bride.

Another remark, this regarding the meaning of fornication in rela­tion to the physical and the spiritual unions. If fornication is a sin before marriage, as some claim, then in the spiritual union it is a sin before bap­tism. It seems obvious that the word unfaithfulness fits this context and it occurs after the union in both cases and with similar results. Unfortunately, the results can be permanent in both cases.

The first recorded case of divorce in the scriptures is the “casting out” of Hagar and it was sanctioned by God. The verb “cast out” is a translation of “garash” and it is translated as “divorce” in Lev. 21:14; 22:13 and Num. 30:9. In Ezk. 44 :22 , it is translated as “put away” and reveals the marriage limitations of priests in connection with Ezekiel’ s temple. However, in Mal. 2:16, it is stated that the Lord hates putting away but the context shows that the cause for God’s anger was because of the treachery of Jews against their companion, the wife of their youth. Unfaithfulness was not in view.

Sometime between the Old and New Testaments, the death penalty was not enforced for sexual sins and the divorce bill was used to end a marriage for these transgressions. This was the document that Joseph would have used to divorce Mary. And in connection with this divorce bill, the law stated that once a second marriage had begun, there could be no resumption of the original marriage under any condition. That is an abomination before the Lord.

The objector to this may quote the case of Hosea and Gomer. This is acted prophecy where God commands the prophet to do something not in accordance with the law to teach Is­rael a lesson. Take, for instance, the command for Isaiah to go naked and barefoot as a sign and a portent. This also was acted prophecy and in no way can we use this as an excuse for public nudity.

From these brief remarks, it would appear that the original union should not be resumed. If forgiveness is requested, however, it should be granted.

With brotherly love,
Harry Perks

Thank you for having the courage to state your views on this matter. Please see this month’s editorial for our expanded comments.

As Bro. Perks reveals in his final paragraph, his reasoning has led him to some conclusions that require comment.

His reasoning from the parallel between husband and wife and Christ and the ecclesia leads to the position that divorce is not just optional, it is required if one’s partner practices unfaithfulness. This is taking the parable too far.

Furthermore, the language of two people becoming “one flesh” in marriage is figurative language. Man and wife do not literally become one person; the Biblical language is used to emphasize the closeness, uniqueness and permanency that should exist in the marital relationship. When a sexual sin occurs, it is a betrayal of trust but it does not necessarily terminate the marriage. To prove our point, consider the requirement for an Israelite to marry his brother’s childless widow (Deut. 25:5). Once he was intimate with this new wife that did not mean he was no longer married to any other wife (wives) he might have.

In discussing this issue, we need to be careful to distinguish between what is literal and what is figurative. We must confine our use of the figurative language to the points specifically made in scripture or we will end up pursuing our logic to wrong conclusions.

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Sis. Joanne Rivard of Welland, ONT is relatively new in the Truth, having been baptized in November, 1987. She has jotted down several questions that have puzzled her as she has become more familiar with the scrip­tures. As space permits, we will endeavor to answer her queries.

Judah’s sudden wealth-II Kgs. 20:13

Question. In the 14th year of Hezekiah, Judah’ s treasury was emptied and gold was stripped from the doors and pillars of the temple as tribute was paid to the Assyrians (II Kgs. 18 :15 – 16). Yet thereafter they had enough foodstuffs to go two years without normal agricultural work (II Kgs. 19:29) and great wealth that Hezekiah showed off to visitors from Babylon (II Kgs. 20:13). Is there an unrecorded gap of time or is there some other explanation for the sudden reversal in conditions?

Answer. When God destroyed the Assyrian army (II Kgs. 19:35), Hezekiah would recover all the tribute he had paid. In addition, the Assyrians would have plunder in their camp from other nations they pillaged on this military campaign. (Refer to Isa. 10:12-14.) Note the wealth taken from a much smaller army on a much shorter campaign in II Kgs. 7:8. Evidently, the troops were paid in booty taken from conquered towns. Thus, a large army such as the Assyrians had (185,000) would yield great wealth with the sudden death of the soldiers. In addition, the destruction of the Assyrian force occasioned many nations to honor God and Hezekiah with generous gifts (II Kgs. 20:12; II Chr. 32:23). Judah would therefore become much wealthier than she had been before.

Unfortunately, Hezekiah reacted poorly to sudden wealth — as most of us would have done — but he later repented of his pride and is among the faithful of God (II Chr. 32:25-26; II Kgs. 18:5-6).

The matter of agricultural bounty was a miracle. The Assyrian invasion undoubtedly disrupted normal sowing and destroyed many orchards, vineyards and fields. God, however, caused the land to produce in spite of all problems. The next year was to be observed as a sabbath year (perhaps even a year of jubilee) with no sowing of crops (note Lev. 25:4-5, 11). The people were to rely on God sowing by wind-blown seeds and other means to provide them with enough food.

The sequence of God destroying the Assyrian forces and blessing the production of the land demonstrated beyond doubt the scope of His power and control. God rules the nations and He controls the earth. Therefore, His faithful remnant can put itself wholly in His hands and rely on His righteousness to fulfill His promises (II Kgs. 19:30-31).

God’s apparent injustice-Ezk. 14:9

Question. The passage reads as follows: “And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.” This sounds as if God is punishing the prophet for something God has caused the prophet to do.

Answer. The key to understanding the verse is to read the context of Ezk. 13:1­-14:11 along with Deut. 13. The false prophets of Ezekiel’s day were interested in money (Ezk. 13:19). Therefore, they prophesied what the people wanted to hear and not the word of God. They spoke of peace when iniquity would bring disaster (13:16); they encouraged the wicked and discouraged the righteous (13:22); they used the paraphernalia of false gods when idolaters inquired of them and answered the idolater as if the god he worshiped really existed (13:18,20­-21).

When an idolater did make inquiry of the prophet, the prophet should have immediately set in motion the dictates of Deut. 13:8-9, which would end in capital punishment for the idolater. However, the prophets blatantly disobeyed these commands.

Because the false prophets disobeyed, God reinforced them in their sin. They would “see” a vision and provide a plausible message to the idolater who was inquiring (14:4,­5,7). If people insist on pursuing iniquity, God will reinforce them in it (II Thess. 2:11-12; Isa. 6:9-10; Rom. 1:24,26,28). By cooperating with the idolater, the false prophets were deserving of punishment and were to be treated as idolaters themselves (Ezk. 14:10).

Note also how the LORD stresses that because the nation would not implement His laws by executing idolaters, He would take the matter into His own hands and slay them Himself (Ezk. 14:8,9). His land would be cleansed either by the people or by Himself.

After the kingdom

Dear Uncle Don,

Do the scriptures give any indi­cation of what will happen to the kingdom after the millennium? (I Cor. 15:28) Will Christ end his reign? And if so, what will happen then?

Should we even be concerned with this question as it is irrelevant to us now?

Love,
Rebekah Abel
Shelburne, ONT

This is a good question and one that I’m sure we have all wondered about.

The Bible is concerned with God’s 7,000-year plan for the earth, which is currently reaching its climax with the commencement of the final 1,000 years. This particular plan is centered in the Lord Jesus Christ, whom God has appointed to be the head over all things pertaining to it (Eph. 1:20-22).

A consistent feature of this plan is the existence of mortal human beings who have the opportunity to turn to God. Those who overcome the ways of sin and walk in God’s way until the end of their lives or their judgment will be given immortality. As you know, before the millennium there will be a judgment of the responsible people from the first 6,000 years, with those who are found faithful receiving immortality (Rom. 2:7).

Mortal people, however, will still exist as the subjects of the millennial age (Isa. 65:20). At the end of the millennium another judgment will occur when those who are faithful during the kingdom will be given immortality and all others will be destroyed. At that time, there will no longer be any mortals because death will be taken away from the earth (Rev. 20:11-13). Once there are no more mortals, the current 7,000-year program will be complete, Christ will have fulfilled his present task and all living human beings will be immortal, like the angels are right now (I Cor. 15:28). So yes, Christ will end his reign.

If this was all we knew about the future, this would be enough incentive to devote ourselves wholeheartedly to God. But I think we are given a few clues as to what lies beyond the millennium.

In the first place, God is very imaginative and creative. For proof of this we only have to look at the variety of life around us and the great ingenuity He exercised in making so many different living things. The angels were active participants in creation and are endowed with a similar kind of creative ingenuity (Gen. 1:26). Immortalized human beings will be equal to angels (Luke 20:36), no doubt having similar qualities. It is very difficult to imagine that anyone endowed with such qualities would not find great enjoyment in exercising them.

Second, from what we know of God’s dealings with us, we suspect the angels used to be like us. Eventually God wants us to be perfect. Before He will make us perfect, however, we must choose to serve Him now and develop moral attributes like His. Since God is dealing that way with us, we can reasonably assume He dealt that way with the angels. This is confirmed by the fact that the angels “know good and evil,” which implies personal experience such as we have now (Gen. 3:22).

Third, if you look at Young’s Concordance under “ever” to “ever more” you will note there are three basic Hebrew words that are used: Netsach, Olam and AD. If you take a careful look at how they are used in scripture, you will find the one that refers to the time after the millennium is AD. When you sift out the verses where AD clearly refers to the post-millennial period you find the following: the immortalized saints will preserve their individual identities (Dan. 12:3); Jesus Christ will have a position of prestige and ruler-ship (Psa. 45:6,17); the earth will exist (Psa. 104:5); God will be praised and obeyed (Psa. 145:1-2; 119:44). This suggests to me an ordering of affairs amongst the immortal host very similar to what exists now among the angels.

Therefore, I suspect that sometime after the millennium, the angel-like immortals will develop a creative plan upon the earth much like the angels did with the current 7,000-year plan. I think our role will be to do for the beings of that plan something similar to what the angels are now doing for us.